> On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:22:26 -0600 "Wolfpaw - Dale Corse" <admin-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > > It dropped to DDB (because I forgot to disable it :( and I did
> > > > The following:
> > > 
> > > First thing you should probably do is actually read what is 
> > > on the screen and actually send the output of ps, trace and a 
> > > dmesg(8). Else, you're not going to get much reliable support.
> > > 
> > > RTFM -- it's a good catch phrase. Tell your friends, and enemies.
> > 
> > Wow.. That's really helpful, thanks!
> 
> It is actually.

I agree 100%.

> > Considering it was 1AM when I got there, and it wouldn't write
> > anything to disk, I suppose your suggesting that I copy the
> > entire ps output to a pad of paper?
> 
> Yes, if you have to.  I think ddb.log is set to true by default though.
> And you didn't mention that boot dump failed in your email.  You should
> read both the crash and the ddb man pages.

When I get see a bug report that is incomplete I simply delete it.  Only
in exceptional cases do I send more mail back to ask.

> > and I did send the trace.
> 
> No you didn't.
> 
> > What was in the dmesg is also in that email..
> 
> Which isn't helpful or what was asked for.  You are supposed to include
> a dmesg.  Not whatever lines from it you think is relevant, the entire
> thing.
> 
> > Sorry to sound snarky, but this response it a little over the top.
> > If you don't have anything helpful to add, please, don't bother.
> 
> No, that response is far nicer than you deserve.  If you can't grasp
> the very clear statement: "RUN AT LEAST 'trace' AND 'ps' AND INCLUDE
> OUTPUT WHEN REPORTING THIS PANIC! DO NOT EVEN BOTHER REPORTING THIS
> WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT INFORMATION!", then don't expect alot of help.
> If you expect people to have "anything helpful to add", then you should
> act like you want help.

Dale -- we don't help people who don't help us help them.

I deleted your original post immediately.  It had no information
which might help.

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