On 04/21/11 19:49, Theo de Raadt wrote:
There has to be some kind of |ber geek enjoying that ; business models
are something to hack and debug, on and on, up to the details of the
products you release and sell.
I'd love to go fix the sii3114 wdc(4) bug, and work with the other
developers in the group to push ~10 important changes into the tree so
that they make 5.0.... but sorry...
I should go 'hack some business models' instead?
If there are "hackers" of that kind lurking somewhere, probably not on
this list, some of them would eventually want to share the fun.
As long as it costs less than it brings in for funding what wrong
could it do ?
It costs time. Go do an install of OpenBSD 3.0 to understand the
point.
It subtracts time but if it also multiplies by more than one, at some
point that's worth it.
I really do enjoy the time you make me gain and there is so much more
after the installation too, that's why I really wish or accept to buy
something. Maybe OpenBSD would also enjoy the time and funding gained
from some other kind of hackers. People who reveal and exploit our
willingness to buy things we like, and others who like to communicate an
image in sync with the produced goods : a f*ing awesome piece of
software, if you sirs allow me. That's what a newborn geek would almost
hear from far away but most have no chance to realize why and how
because they never hear something from OpenBSD itself (other than from
www.openbsd.org) and some due RTFM from irc.
I think people who like to learn tend to listen more than they speak,
but you also need someone talking to you. I learned so much just reading
on the @openbsd lists and I feel I should have heard of it much sooner.
If I had discovered it a few years sooner maybe I would be a happy
contributor by now.
And the motto can be something as blunt as "hack up or put up", if it's
how it works that's how it should read, big. Maybe something that
implies less giving away than "_Free_, Functional & Secure". Those who
care about the price will know. Just saying it with no other background
creates an identity you can share for the things you like and enjoy.
I think that like when registering a domain name, you are registering an
image in people's mind : stubborn and hackers who have no fear speaking
up the wrongs and like to patch them. Maybe this is too heroic, people
don't get why one would want to do this. And at some point make it clear
that it is heavily underrated and needs funding.
Actually this is already done we know it is underrated and there is
plenty to read about OpenBSD but, only for those who already reached it.
You have to reach the top to enjoy the view. Reaching it is really
unlikely but really worth it.
Also advocacy@ feels quite empty compared to misc@.
Bootstrapping is the right term, more than meta cross compiling, but
this is still all about partial evaluation and reversing/translating it.
--
Thomas de Grivel
