<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> My only question is what if I traceroute to you, find out the IP number of 
> your upstream router?  Then I make a bunch of connection attempts to your IP 
> but forge the packets to make them look like they came from your upstream.  
> Don't *you* end up blacklisting your default route and you become 'so long 
> suckah'd?

This isn't a problem for 2 reasons.

1) The upstream router isn't likely to be the destination of any
   packet in a consumer-isp situation.  Only if you are running some
   routing protocol that uses that upstream router as an endpoint
   (eg. rip, ospf, etc) will a block against that router's IP matter
   to you.

   I've heard of cases where folks intentionally add an IP-level block
   against their ISP's whole infrastructure.  (Some ISP's don't allow
   any "servers".  If they find an sshd hanging on port 22 are they
   going to hassle you?  Just block 'em.)

2) Forging the source IP in a TCP packet and succeeding in negotiating
   the 3-way handshake isn't all that simple any more.  I wouldn't
   worry about it.  If someone could forge that reliably, there is
   much better game to go after (like breaking into machines that
   still use IP addresses for authorization.)  Someone spoofing an IP
   so that you mistakenly block an innocent party is pretty much
   wasting a good trick.

-wolfgang

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