On 7/15/05, David M. N. Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not acording to SAN Disk's documentation.
> 
> http://www.sandisk.com/pdf/oem/cf-manual-10.8.pdf
> 
> They have 1,000,000 Hours MTBF.  That's ~114 years. (Page 8)

The lifespan complaint was about IDE hard drives with spinning platters.

> Minimum of 10,000 insertions, so that's not very much on a system that
> writes more then a coupple of times a day.

IIRC, "insertions" refers to mechanical insertions-- physically inserting the
CF media into a camera or card reader.

> Mounting the file system read only is ok, it's just when the CF gate
> states are changed that they loose the ability to retain the state, bad
> gates can be mapped around, but you now stand to loose data and corrupt
> your CF.

In the SanDisk URL referenced above, section 1.6.2 is the relevant block


. . .
> I'm still torn between HD vs CF.  

The one area where I'd really miss having a HD is local logging.


> With HD you can get logs, and run
> snort/squid with little or no effort.  With a CF it's going to take a
> little bit more work to get squid to run out of memory only (or MFS)

Actually, it's really easy to get Squid to run out of memory only -- you
just set the logs and the cache_dir to "null" and the only file Squid needs
to write is the pidfile under /var/run.

> and snort will need to log via syslog or something, which when dealing with
> small clients, they may not have a syslog server setup, heck the OpenBSD
> box maybe the most advanced OS they have on-site.

For low-volume logs, some sort of battery-backed RAM storage would be
perfect;  someplace to save just a few megabytes of "state" and log data
that can survive a reboot, but which doesn't have the write volume failure
issues of flash memory.

The SanDisk paper referenced above makes some interesting claims about
the write resiliency of compactflash.  Could be worth a trial, set up a second
CF card just for logs, write to it for a year, see if it burns out :)


Kevin Kadow

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