There's a standard DEBUG_BUILD variable that can be reused for this. But...

It is a build-time condition, which means you end up with two separate builds 
for release and debugging. Do you test both? Or how can you ensure testing 
debug build also covers the release build properly?

The idea of only building release images and then installing test packages at 
run-time for testing was to mitigate the above ambiguity...

That said, I don't understand why it has to drive the run-time testing over 
telnet or ssh? Isn't the early boot testing already done over serial? Can the 
user-space Linux testing be done over serial as well?

-- 
Denys


On Mon, Jan 05, 2026 at 07:25:24PM -0600, Ryan Eatmon via 
lists.yoctoproject.org wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/5/2026 5:36 PM, Andrew Davis wrote:
> >On 1/5/26 4:23 PM, Ryan Eatmon wrote:
> >>
> >>This one may not work.  This assumes that you have ti-test
> >>intstalled (which not all images do).  And without ti-test in
> >>the image, then you cannot telnet to the board during test.
> >>
> >
> >Why would you need to telnet onto a board to check on test if you are
> >not testing? If you are testing, then you would have ti-test.
> 
> The base image is kept small to do network based tests.  They then
> install the ti-test package from the NAS.  But that assumes that the
> test framework could telnet to the board after boot in order to run
> commands...  That's the scenario I'm thinking of.
> 
> The best solution is to update all of the tests to use ssh, but that
> still means we are still hardcoding something in the file system to
> allow connecting in a bad way.
> 
> What if we also combined the above with a variable that we set in
> the local.conf during our builds, but is off by default.  And that
> varible override would make us include the ti-test-required.  We
> could even just add that setting to the local.conf...
> 
> 
> >Removing this from images that are not specifically meant for use by our
> >test automation is 100% intentional. Right now anyone can telnet into,
> >as root, without a password, all of our images. As much as we love to claim
> >no one should be using these images as a base for their production image,
> >absolutly every single customer is anyway. Which means we have a huge
> >security foot-gun here, and customers *will* end up shipping devices with
> >this massive security issue.
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> >>
> >>On 1/5/2026 4:19 PM, Andrew Davis wrote:
> >>>These are only used (and only ever should be used) in testing images.
> >>>Move these out of the base distro images and only into images including
> >>>the ti-test packagegroup. Move the recipes themselves also over to
> >>>meta-arago-test.
> >>>
> >>>Signed-off-by: Andrew Davis <[email protected]>
> >>>---
> >>>  check_yocto_rules.json                                        | 4 ++--
> >>>  .../recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-arago-base.bb     | 2 --
> >>>  .../initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd.bb                  | 0
> >>>  .../initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd/telnetd             | 0
> >>>  .../recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd.bb   | 0
> >>>  .../systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd/telnetd.service           | 0
> >>>  meta-arago-test/recipes-core/packagegroups/ti-test.bb         | 2 ++
> >>>  7 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> >>>  rename {meta-arago-distro => 
> >>>meta-arago-test}/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd.bb
> >>>(100%)
> >>>  rename {meta-arago-distro => 
> >>>meta-arago-test}/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd/telnetd
> >>>(100%)
> >>>  rename {meta-arago-distro => 
> >>>meta-arago-test}/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd.bb
> >>>(100%)
> >>>  rename {meta-arago-distro => 
> >>>meta-arago-test}/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd/telnetd.service
> >>>(100%)
> >>>
> >>>diff --git a/check_yocto_rules.json b/check_yocto_rules.json
> >>>index 7b3e20db..26275421 100644
> >>>--- a/check_yocto_rules.json
> >>>+++ b/check_yocto_rules.json
> >>>@@ -27,8 +27,6 @@
> >>>      "PV-1" :{
> >>>          "skip_files" : [
> >>>"meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/bt-enable/bt-enable.bb",
> >>>-            
> >>>"meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd.bb",
> >>>-            
> >>>"meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd.bb",
> >>>"meta-arago-distro/recipes-core/arago-gpl-notice/arago-gpl-notice.bb",
> >>>"meta-arago-distro/recipes-core/meta/meta-toolchain-arago-tisdk-server.bb",
> >>>"meta-arago-distro/recipes-core/meta/meta-toolchain-arago-tisdk.bb",
> >>>@@ -38,6 +36,8 @@
> >>>"meta-arago-extras/recipes-extended/sysrepo/nw-configurator.bb",
> >>>"meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gst-plugins-ti/gstreamer1.0-plugins-ducati_git.bb",
> >>>"meta-arago-extras/recipes-multimedia/gst-plugins-ti/gstreamer1.0-plugins-vpe_git.bb"
> >>>+            
> >>>"meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd.bb",
> >>>+            
> >>>"meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd.bb",
> >>>          ]
> >>>      }
> >>>  }
> >>>diff --git 
> >>>a/meta-arago-distro/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-arago-base.bb 
> >>>b/meta-arago-distro/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-arago-base.bb
> >>>index b80697e5..d36b4397 100644
> >>>--- 
> >>>a/meta-arago-distro/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-arago-base.bb
> >>>+++ 
> >>>b/meta-arago-distro/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-arago-base.bb
> >>>@@ -16,8 +16,6 @@ ARAGO_BASE = "\
> >>>      mtd-utils \
> >>>      mtd-utils-ubifs \
> >>>      curl \
> >>>-    initscript-telnetd \
> >>>-    systemd-telnetd \
> >>>      ethtool \
> >>>      bash \
> >>>      opkg-bash-completion \
> >>>diff --git 
> >>>a/meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd.bb
> >>> 
> >>>b/meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd.bb
> >>>similarity index 100%
> >>>rename from 
> >>>meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd.bb
> >>>rename to 
> >>>meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd.bb
> >>>diff --git 
> >>>a/meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd/telnetd
> >>> 
> >>>b/meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd/telnetd
> >>>similarity index 100%
> >>>rename from 
> >>>meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd/telnetd
> >>>rename to 
> >>>meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/initscript-telnetd/initscript-telnetd/telnetd
> >>>diff --git 
> >>>a/meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd.bb
> >>> b/meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd.bb
> >>>similarity index 100%
> >>>rename from 
> >>>meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd.bb
> >>>rename to 
> >>>meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd.bb
> >>>diff --git 
> >>>a/meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd/telnetd.service
> >>> 
> >>>b/meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd/telnetd.service
> >>>similarity index 100%
> >>>rename from 
> >>>meta-arago-distro/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd/telnetd.service
> >>>rename to 
> >>>meta-arago-test/recipes-connectivity/systemd-telnetd/systemd-telnetd/telnetd.service
> >>>diff --git
> >>>a/meta-arago-test/recipes-core/packagegroups/ti-test.bb
> >>>b/meta-arago-test/recipes-core/packagegroups/ti-test.bb
> >>>index 22957218..ebac81c2 100644
> >>>--- a/meta-arago-test/recipes-core/packagegroups/ti-test.bb
> >>>+++ b/meta-arago-test/recipes-core/packagegroups/ti-test.bb
> >>>@@ -22,6 +22,7 @@ TI_TEST_BASE = "\
> >>>      hwspinlocktest \
> >>>      hdparm \
> >>>      i2c-tools \
> >>>+    initscript-telnetd \
> >>>      iozone3 \
> >>>      iproute2-tc \
> >>>      iproute2-devlink \
> >>>@@ -57,6 +58,7 @@ TI_TEST_BASE = "\
> >>>      stress \
> >>>      stress-ng \
> >>>      strongswan \
> >>>+    systemd-telnetd \
> >>>      tcpdump \
> >>>      v4l-utils \
> >>>      xdp-tools-arago \


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