On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 3:56 PM apinheiro <apinhe...@igalia.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/10/21 13:55, Alyssa Rosenzweig wrote:
>
> I would love to see this be the process across Mesa.  We already don't
> rewrite commit messages for freedreno and i915g, and I only have to do
> the rebase (busy-)work for my projects in other areas of the tree.
>
> Likewise for Panfrost. At least, I don't do the rewriting. Some Panfrost
> devs do, which I'm fine with. But it's not a requirement to merging.
>
> The arguments about "who can help support this years from now?" are moot
> at our scale... the team is small enough that the name on the reviewer
> is likely the code owner / maintainer, and patches regularly go in
> unreviewed for lack of review bandwidth.
>
> There is another reason to the Rb tag, that is to measure the quantity
> of patch review people do.
>
> This was well summarized some years ago by Matt Turner, as it was
> minimized (even suggested to be removed) on a different thread:
>
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2019-January/213586.html
>
> I was part of the Intel team when people started doing this r-b
> counting.  I believe that it was being done due to Intel management's
> failure to understand who was doing the work on the team and credit
> them appropriately, and also to encourage those doing less to step up.
>
>
> That's basically the same problem with trying to measure and compare 
> developers just by commit count. In theory commit count is a bad measure for 
> that. In practice it is used somehow.
>
> Unfortunately, the problem with Intel management wasn't a lack of
> available information, and I didn't see publishing the counts change
> reviews either.
>
> 💯
>
> Upstream should do what's best for upstream, not for Intel's "unique"
> management.
>
>
> Not sure how from Emma explaining how Rb tags were used by Intel management 
> it came the conclusion that it were used in that way only by Intel 
> management. Spoiler: it is not.
>
> Replying both, that's is one of the reasons I pointed original Matt Turner 
> email. He never mentioned explicitly Intel management, neither pointed this 
> as an accurate measure of the use. Quoting:
>
> "The number of R-b tags is not a 100% accurate picture of the
> situation, but it gives at least a good overview of who is doing the
> tedious work of patch review. "
>
> In any case, just to be clear here: Im not saying that the Rb tags main use 
> is this one. Just saying that is one of their uses, and the value for such 
> use can be debatable, but it is not zero.

<snark>Negative numbers aren't zero!</snark>

--Jason

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