On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:00:26 AM PST Nicolai Hähnle wrote:
> On 17.01.2018 01:23, Jordan Justen wrote:
> > On 2018-01-16 13:57:37, Kenneth Graunke wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:18:13 AM PST Emil Velikov wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> As you've know the Mesa 18.0.0 release plan has been available for a while
> >>> on the mesa3d.org website [1].
> >>>
> >>> In case you've missed it here it is:
> >>>
> >>>   Jan 19 2018 - Feature freeze/Release candidate 1
> >>>   Jan 26 2018 - Release candidate 2
> >>>   Feb 02 2018 - Release candidate 3
> >>>   Feb 09 2018 - Release candidate 4/final release
> >>>
> >>> This gives us half a week until the branch point.
> >>>
> >>> As this is shorter notice than usual, I'm open to adjusting the schedule 
> >>> by a
> >>> week. Do let me know ASAP, if we should go that route.
> >>>
> >>> As always - do list features/sets that you'd like to see merged. Thus we 
> >>> can
> >>> all have a clear idea and prioritise accordingly.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Emil
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://www.mesa3d.org/release-calendar.html
> >>
> >> A few observations and some questions...
> >>
> >> Although 17.3 was branched in late October, 17.3.0 wasn't released until
> >> December 8th - about 6 weeks ago.  17.3.x also shipped with a pretty
> >> catastrophic DRI3 bug that caused tons of applications to segfault,
> >> which was fixed by 897c54d522ab960a879b763a15e489f630c491ee, but that
> >> hasn't yet made it into a shipping 17.3.x release.  Arguably, I think
> >> 17.3.3 is going to be the first usable 17.3.x release.
> >>
> >> So...is it too early to branch for 18.0?
> >>
> >> - Have distros picked up 17.3.x yet?
> >> - Is there anything in master that people are excited about shipping?
> >> - There are about 2 months of work since the 17.3.x branch point
> >>    (half of October, all of November, about half of December because
> >>    so many people were on holidays).
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if a mid-February branch point and March release would
> >> make more sense, just to space them out.
> > 
> > Related to this, what are the cutoffs for upcoming distro releases?
> > 
> > I'm not sure for Fedora 28. Maybe Beta Freeze on March 6?
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/28/Schedule
> > 
> > It looks like March 1st for Ubuntu 18.04.
> > 
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
> 
> To be honest, I'm a fan of the predictable time-based releases and would 
> rather not do ad-hoc monkeying around with schedules as a matter of 
> principle. With the dates above and a conservative approach (there may 
> be additional RCs...), we don't have much wiggle room anyway.

Marek said as much on IRC as well.  It sounds like we should just go
ahead, and 18.0 will be a fairly boring but hopefully solid release.

--Ken

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