The only of hand "hack" I can see is to open up an HDMI connector, shortcut the hot plug detection pin and then connect that as "output device" to the amplifier.

It should fix your issues with the hot plug detection. You most likely still won't get a valid EDID, but that can be overridden easily.

On the other hand what's the issue with connecting the PC Monitor to the amplifier using a HDMI->DVI cable?

Regards,
Christian.

Am 09.03.2016 um 17:44 schrieb Jarkko Korpi:
Makes sense. I just broke my xrandr config that it doesnt work correctly it happens from time to time and it's really irritating to fix. What I just need is basically clone mode. But kde doesnt see screens that are offline and if I put amplifier on, it shutdowns my pc screen. Before I had an issue that I am on desktop, but most of the working applications are on the other desktop. This was easier to fix, mostly just opening and closing amplifier and it started to work correctly.

xrandr --verbose
Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1920 x 1080, maximum 32767 x 32767
HDMI1 connected 1920x1080+0+0 (0x47) normal (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 298mm
        Identifier: 0x43
        Timestamp:  307470
        Subpixel:   unknown
        Gamma:      1.0:1.0:1.0
        Brightness: 1.0
        Clones:
        CRTC:       0
        CRTCs:      0 1 2
        Transform:  1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
                    0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
                    0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
                   filter:
        EDID:
                00ffffffffffff0009d1a77845540000
                1b18010380351e782eba45a159559d28
                0d5054a56b80810081c08180a9c0b300
                d1c001010101023a801871382d40582c
                4500132a2100001e000000ff00333745
                30323032323031390a20000000fd0032
                4c1e5311000a202020202020000000fc
                0042656e5120474c32343530480a006c
        aspect ratio: Automatic
                supported: Automatic, 4:3, 16:9
        Broadcast RGB: Automatic
                supported: Automatic, Full, Limited 16:235
        audio: auto
                supported: force-dvi, off, auto, on
  1920x1080 (0x47)  148.5MHz +HSync +VSync *current +preferred
h: width 1920 start 2008 end 2052 total 2200 skew 0 clock 67.5KHz
        v: height 1080 start 1084 end 1089 total 1125 clock   60.0Hz
  1680x1050 (0xc7)  119.0MHz +HSync -VSync
h: width 1680 start 1728 end 1760 total 1840 skew 0 clock 64.7KHz
        v: height 1050 start 1053 end 1059 total 1080 clock   59.9Hz
  1600x900 (0xc8)  108.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1600 start 1624 end 1704 total 1800 skew 0 clock 60.0KHz
        v: height  900 start  901 end  904 total 1000 clock   60.0Hz
  1280x1024 (0xc9)  135.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1280 start 1296 end 1440 total 1688 skew 0 clock 80.0KHz
        v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066 clock   75.0Hz
  1280x1024 (0xca)  108.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1280 start 1328 end 1440 total 1688 skew 0 clock 64.0KHz
        v: height 1024 start 1025 end 1028 total 1066 clock   60.0Hz
  1280x800 (0xcb)   71.0MHz +HSync -VSync
h: width 1280 start 1328 end 1360 total 1440 skew 0 clock 49.3KHz
        v: height  800 start  803 end  809 total  823 clock   59.9Hz
  1152x864 (0xcc)  108.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1152 start 1216 end 1344 total 1600 skew 0 clock 67.5KHz
        v: height  864 start  865 end  868 total  900 clock   75.0Hz
  1280x720 (0xcd)   74.2MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1280 start 1390 end 1430 total 1650 skew 0 clock 45.0KHz
        v: height  720 start  725 end  730 total  750 clock   60.0Hz
  1024x768 (0xce)   78.8MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 1024 start 1040 end 1136 total 1312 skew 0 clock 60.1KHz
        v: height  768 start  769 end  772 total  800 clock   75.1Hz
  1024x768 (0xcf)   65.0MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 1024 start 1048 end 1184 total 1344 skew 0 clock 48.4KHz
        v: height  768 start  771 end  777 total  806 clock   60.0Hz
  832x624 (0xd0)   57.3MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 832 start 864 end 928 total 1152 skew 0 clock 49.7KHz
        v: height  624 start  625 end  628 total  667 clock   74.6Hz
  800x600 (0xd1)   49.5MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 800 start 816 end 896 total 1056 skew 0 clock 46.9KHz
        v: height  600 start  601 end  604 total  625 clock   75.0Hz
  800x600 (0xd2)   40.0MHz +HSync +VSync
h: width 800 start 840 end 968 total 1056 skew 0 clock 37.9KHz
        v: height  600 start  601 end  605 total  628 clock   60.3Hz
  640x480 (0xd3)   31.5MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 640 start 656 end 720 total 840 skew 0 clock 37.5KHz
        v: height  480 start  481 end  484 total  500 clock   75.0Hz
  640x480 (0xd4)   25.2MHz -HSync -VSync
h: width 640 start 656 end 752 total 800 skew 0 clock 31.5KHz
        v: height  480 start  490 end  492 total  525 clock   60.0Hz
  720x400 (0xd5)   28.3MHz -HSync +VSync
h: width 720 start 738 end 846 total 900 skew 0 clock 31.5KHz
        v: height  400 start  412 end  414 total  449 clock   70.1Hz
HDMI2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
        Identifier: 0x44
        Timestamp:  307470
        Subpixel:   unknown
        Clones:
        CRTCs:      0 1 2
        Transform:  1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
                    0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
                    0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
                   filter:
        aspect ratio: Automatic
                supported: Automatic, 4:3, 16:9
        Broadcast RGB: Automatic
                supported: Automatic, Full, Limited 16:235
        audio: auto
                supported: force-dvi, off, auto, on
VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
        Identifier: 0x45
        Timestamp:  307470
        Subpixel:   no subpixels
        Clones:
        CRTCs:      3
        Transform:  1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
                    0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
                    0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
                   filter:

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Subject: Re: [Mesa-dev] radeonsi external audio + powerconsumption
To: jarkko_ko...@hotmail.com; mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org
From: deathsim...@vodafone.de
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:38:08 +0100

That configuration can't work correctly.

With HDMI the audio data is interleaved in the video vertical and horizontal sync periods. So if you don't have video you don't have any way to submit audio either.

What the driver properly does is providing a dummy video signal so that audio can be transfered anyway. Most likely just a clone of the desktop picture.

Please provide you're xrandr --verbose output.

Regards,
Christian.

Am 09.03.2016 um 17:31 schrieb Jarkko Korpi:

    I have ati r9 290 I have been using external amplifier that puts
    the sound into speakers. I have this connection using r9 290 -->
    hdmi --> speakers
    And dvi --> pc screen.

    xrandr (that broke my config again) see this external amplifer as
    a display which is it not. Kde/mint/upstream should fix this so it
    would be more correct.

    Hdmi channel is just sending audio data to amplifier. And it feels
    like that ati is using more clock cycles to provide the picture
    and the audio than it should.

    Is there anyway to prevent this in future?


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