I am guessing you are using the PHA allergies and ado not yet have the MIS allergies in use (we don't have 5.6 yet so I don't have that either). The way I have "taught" the pharmacists to enter allergies is to choose the generic and then "check off" appropriate classes and ingredients. If they enter Morphine as a generic, they should get morphine as an ingredient and it would be checked off and that would have issued a flag. However, their choice for Class would be opiates. If the patient is allergic to morphine (truly allergic) they would probably be able to tolerate Demerol, fentanyl or dilaudid under most circumstances. Yet if you check off the class Opiates, you will get a flag. This is why allergies are so hard to enter, because you need to be a pharmacist with a good knowledge of pharmaceutical chemistry to enter them. I have tried to make sure that the actual drug itself is also listed as an ingredient in each drug. Medispan tends to put ingredients such as "benzodiazepines" (a chemical group of drugs) into drugs such as Valium and alprazolam, but you have to actual enter the ingredients alprazolam and diazepam yourself. I did this when we got RXM and nursing was entering allergies, however, this did not work well because if a patient said they were allergic to ampicillin and the nurse only entered the ingredient ampicillin they wouldn't get flagged against other penicillins. They wouldn't know which generic to enter because there are so many listed. Then what I had to do was to start going through the generics and putting asterisks by the generics that they should use for allergies (I chose the generics mnemonics that had generics most commonly associated with drugs in our database). That way nursing and pharmacy had an easier time choosing the right generic. I also had to write a list of particular allergies that I considered it important for them to always put in the "CLASS" regardless of what else they entered. Those were classes like penicillins and the sulfa antibiotics. In addition, I had to give them lists of foods that might be incorporated into drugs and class allergic reactions so that they would know whether or not to enter the food as a Pha ingredient allergy. As far as pharmacists, it was even difficult to explain when to enter the "pharmaceutical group" that Medispan had entered as an ingredient (i.e. phenothiazines or benzodiazepines) rather than the drug itself or the class. Over all I have found this to be the main problem. Drug allergies are not necessarily determined by AHFS DRUG CLASS. They are determined by the chemical and physical composition of the drug and crosse reactions occur with drugs similar in chemical components. They are chemically related. If a person is allergic to chlorpromazine, he may be allergic to other phenothiazines, but he is not allergic to the class of ANTIHISTAMINES (he is not allergic to Benadryl - but he may be allergic to promethazine). He is also not allergic to the AHFS CLASS of Neuroleptics because he is only allergic the phenothiazine-moiety containing chlorpromazine. This makes it hard enough for pharmacists to enter allergies, and much harder for nursing. From what I can tell, The MIS allergy dictionary will be hard to build if it is built right, but in the end it will probably make entering allergies a little less confusing. Good luck. Cindy
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