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> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Stearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 11:26 AM
> To: Gregory Leblanc
> Cc: 'Steve Creel'; ML-ip-masq; William Stearns
> Subject: RE: [Masq] Graphical/Web Interface/Stats
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> On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Gregory Leblanc wrote:
> 
> > >   Hoping that I need not re-invent the wheel here, does 
> > > anyone know
> > > of a program to monitor current connections through a masquerading
> > > machine?  I'm looking for something to use that others can see the
> > > activity on the machine via web.....
> > 
> > I don't think you can really do this, except for IRC and FTP type
> > connections, which are handled through a kernel module.  The IP-MASQ
> > code is "stateless" which means that it doesn't keep track of "open"
> > connections, except for "special" protocols, like FTP etc.  
> 
>       You're partially correct; ipchains and ipfwadm are generally
> stateless.  They do, however, keep track of enough state to 
> remember which
> packets need to get demasqueraded on their way back through.
>       The ipfwadm/iptables -l/-L -M (and, in fact, "netstat -a -M")
> provide a printout of the masquerading table in the kernel.

Good thing you're here to set me straight.  :) 

>       You're also correct in that the above commands and the script I
> provided will _not_ show anything but masqueraded 
> connections; if you have
> two boxes talking through the firewall without using 
> masquerading, their
> conversations won't show up.  Neither will conversations to 
> and from the
> box itself.
>       You have to move up to iptables before you get full stateful
> inspection.

iptables?  do you have a URL handy for that?  I'm always looking for
something else to play with...
        Greg

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