On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 03:32 PM, Glenn Kissack wrote:

> 
> The family of the Czar and the families of imperial army officers were not
> civilians working on kibbutzes

Glenn,

Transpose the conflict to Algeria, Vietnam, or even better, South Africa in the 
19th or 20th century.  The colonized population, repressed, atomized, rebels 
violently against the colonizer population, that includes small  farmers.  Were 
the Boer farmers "civilians"?

Maybe you aren't familiar with the duties of those on a kibbutz, but armed 
security is a shared responsibility; hard to classify that as "civilian."

Yes, the Thai, and other agricultural workers, should have been immediately 
released. Hamas is not a class-conscious organization
Nobody is asking anybody to applaud the death  of "innocents," but the source, 
the cause of the violence, the responsibility for the blood remains with the 
rulers. the colonizers, not the colonized.


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