gojko rakic via groups.io <gojkor=hotmail....@groups.io> wrote:

> John,
> There is no any real strugle in the US that will help workers. Most
> workers prefer Trump.
>

This is the heart of the difference.

The idea that there is no real struggle benefiting workers outside the
electoral process really sums up the argument. We have trade union drives
and struggles around issues from Gaza to the global climate. Resentment
over persistent racism can spark large mobilizations very quickly. These
things and their potential of growing and assuming an independent demands
for change are our concern. A realistic understanding of how they get
demobilized inspires a well-founded distrust of how the corporate media
reflects those concerns into nutritious little nibbles digestible by
electoral politics.

There are enough of us and the sentiment is great enough to where we could
carry some weight in thwarting the threat of Trump's reelection.  How about
an attempt to unite these diverse but very promising mass concerns into a
march on Washington to "Save American Democracy" like the great women's
marches that greeted Trump's inauguration?  Or we can leave it to the
courts and the lawsuites and the institutions of power to correct
injustices by the institutions of power.

The assertion that "most workers prefer Trump" is another side of this
dismissal of the struggles. It remains a regular trope of a self-satisfied
media punditry displacing the blame for their own central role in turning a
two-bit Sideshow Bob into an Orange Jesus. .

 It seems obvious that gojko rakic (and the bankrolled corporate pundits
whose views inform him) assume a "white male only" definition of
"workers."  Women overwhelmingly detest Trump, as do the vast majority of
workers of color. That said, even in terms of the white working class,
there are studies with results like this

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https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/abs/white-working-class-and-the-2016-election/CAA760DEB0CC41BA02ADF2131EFA508F
>

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https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/abs/white-working-class-and-the-2016-election/CAA760DEB0CC41BA02ADF2131EFA508F>


Overwhelming majorities in the polls favor things far beyond what the
politicians of either stripe are offering. They favor a national health
care system, free education so long as it's for everybody, and oppose wars.
When asked, most express dissatisfaction with the party system and want
more alternatives. (The latest poll I saw on this was a year or so back and
ran into the 60th percentile.) The nature of electoral politics in the U.S.
crushes such aspirations into one of two channels. Hence, the mass civic
demoralization we see most of them time. Whatever impact we have, we should
avoid contributing to that process

Cheers,
Mark L.

PS; As a further aside, gojko rakic's assertion that "most workers" support
Trump forms part of his argument that we should vote for Harris, while
others argue that we should vote for Harris because the workers, including
most of the labor movement, oppose Trump.


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