Yes they were. Already established illegitimate. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/russia-ukraine-illegitimate-results-of-sham-referenda-must-not-enable-illegal-annexation-of-occupied-areas/
On Monday, June 24, 2024, abraham Weizfeld PhD via groups.io <eibieman= gmail....@groups.io> wrote: > The referenda have already taken place and there is no credible reason to > consider them illegitimate. > > > > > > *From:* marxmail@groups.io <marxmail@groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Charlie > via groups.io > *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2024 6:09 PM > *To:* marxmail@groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [marxmail] Jeffrey Sachs on Russia's conditions for ending > the war > > > > Marv: "You have made you position clear many times before, Michael." And > so have you, Marv. Empty snark is like a rubber ball: it bounces back. > > Marv's straw man is "a free and fair vote" in districts occupied by > Russian forces. Again, he ignores Michael's simple question, *how* do you > do that with Russian forces there? Does a voter who has not hidden his > preference for staying in Ukraine want to be observed going to the polls? > Does a voter who doesn't really care one way or the other want to be asked > if he would be willing to show his voter's receipt? > > And what is the practical point for agitation in Canada and the U.S. and > so on? Does Marv make the theme of a leaflet his call for a free and fair > vote? It seems that we who do "doctrinaire" agitation about imperialism are > actually more practical in a small way than that. > > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#30886): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/30886 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/106818185/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: marxmail+ow...@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
