Hi, Things evolve quickly, maybe some decisions need some refresh ! I have always seen this web page from version 5-6, Some feedback should be appreciated. Is it this page still relevant ? It's not clear for everyone that it's a community version, and you can't easily ask a backport of some bug fix, for example.
Regards, Régis Perdreau Le mer. 12 juin 2024 à 16:55, Italo Vignoli <it...@vignoli.org> a écrit : > Although we respect every opinion, I would leave marketing decisions to > people who have some marketing experience, and not to everyone (because > marketing is a profession as much as software development, and I avoid > to make comments to development decisions exactly because I know that I > am not competent in that area). > > Of course, you are free to deploy the LibreOffice version you prefer, > but this doesn't mean that your judgement is absolute and is valid for > millions of users worlwide. Normal users, i.e. over 98% of all users, > are scared by technical jargon and are not able to recognize a bug from > a feature. We have to communicate to these users, and not to developers > who perfectly know how to manage the software they use. > > So, with 42 years of marketing profession under my belt, I am rather > tired to see people without any marketing understanding making comments > about marketing decisions. We leave developemnt decisions to developers, > please leave marketing decision to marketers. > > On 12/06/24 16:22, Justin Luth wrote: > > I completely disagree with your definition of "stable". Stable in this > > context means "it works just as good (or better) with my existing > > documents as the version of LO that I want to upgrade from". It means no > > regressions, no crashing, no surprises. It does not mean "no new > > development" since nothing on the download page has "new development" in > > it. This is important because EVERYTHING about the download page > > revolves around the issue of whether one version is "more stable" than > > the other version, and is the whole reason why people should chose > > between "the older" and "the newer" version. > > > > FRESH is still only suitable for early adopters. 24.2 will only be > > suitable for "everyone" when it reaches STILL status. (For me > > personally, I don't even consider STILL to be stable and won't deploy it > > until it has reach the last planned point release.) [I see that you have > > dropped the FRESH/STILL wording, but the underlying concept is still > > 100% valid.] > > > > By removing "early adopter", you actually confuse the issue, because now > > there really is no distinction between what FRESH and STILL mean. > > > > It shouldn't be that hard for people to choose. Use the STILL version if > > you just want to "do work". Use the FRESH version if you want to help > > the community improve the product by testing and bug reporting. It > > doesn't get much clearer than the current "If you're a technology > > enthusiast, early adopter or power user, this version is for you!". You > > can only be confused about that if you don't know what an enthusiast or > > an early adopter is. FRESH is for people who want to "Get Involved". > > STILL is for people who want to "take". > > > > If you change the wording now, you will just confuse the issue in a > > month, when 24.2.5 moves into STILL status, and 24.8 becomes the FRESH > > version. Are you going to imply that 24.8.0 will be "ideal for everyone > > and not just early adopters"? I certainly hope not. > > > > You need to get out of marketing mode. People are correct to believe > > that 24.2 is "not stable" yet. You shouldn't be afraid to acknowledge > > that. And until you acknowledge that, you will continue to make it > > difficult for people to "decide" which of the two options to chose from. > > > > Justin > > > > On 6/12/24 8:51 AM, Mike Saunders wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Check out the two boxes on the download page, for (currently) the > >> LibreOffice 24.2 and 7.6 branches: > >> > >> https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/ > >> > >> We've heard from users on social media and at our info@ and download@ > >> addresses that they're confused which version to choose, or believe > >> the 24.2 branch isn't stable etc. Obviously both branches are stable > >> (in the sense that they don't change radically, and only receive bug > >> and security fixes -- no new features in the middle of the branch). > >> > >> So let's look at updating the text for clarity! My initial suggestion: > >> > >> > >> Newer branch (currently 24.2): The very latest version, with lots of > >> new features and improvements. > >> > >> Older branch (currently 7.6): Our previous release, which we are still > >> supporting. For business deployments, we strongly recommend getting > >> long-term supported versions from our ecosystem. > >> > >> > >> What do you think? Bear in mind that we want to keep the text short > >> and snappy here! > >> > > > -- > Italo Vignoli - it...@vignoli.org > mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
