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Op ma 6 dec. 2021 om 15:06 schreef Kannan Moudgalya <[email protected]>:

> Hi All,
>
> We have been conducting training on the use of LibreOffice in India.
> The training involves downloading LibreOffice and practising.  We could
> not have done this with MS Office - how could we afford so many
> licenses?  The number of people we trained are:
>
> Writer - 440,000
> Calc - 380,000
> Impress - 301,000
> Base - 230,000
> Draw - 106,000
> Math - 85,000
>
> One can gather these details from this URL:
> https://spoken-tutorial.org/statistics/training/
>
> Regards,
> Kannan
>
>
> On 06/12/21 7:15 pm, Parthasarathy Narasimhan wrote:
> >   Hi All,
> > I am a new user of Libreoffice. I am attending an Executive MBA course
> where the course is being taught using MSXL and the topic is statistics. I
> see this is one area where the screen input functionality between XL and
> Libre differs.
> > Like XL shows more parameters on the screen for the student to input
> while it seems Libre might be defaulting.
> > Just thought of sharing.
> > Regards,Partha
> >
> >      On Monday, December 6, 2021, 06:39:52 PM GMT+5:30, James Harking <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >   Hi all,
> >
> > I agree with this for the most part, I think direct comparison are
> > difficult as the applications you can compare directly Word to Writer,
> > Excel to Calc and PowerPoint to Impress is not the totality of Microsoft
> > Office. So there is a significant short coming there.
> >
> > We do have Base and Math although I'm not sure how popular and used these
> > components are. Interoperability is a very important consideration that
> > currently hinders adoption in my humble opinion. Although things have
> > certainly improved. I also think the current user interface is a major
> > downside for many people and a criticism I hear leveled at LibreOffice in
> > almost every discussion on LibreOffice in general.
> >
> > Where we do have the advantage is on the community and freedom aspects
> that
> > truly separates LibreOffice from its proprietary counterparts. This is
> the
> > area I would 'evangelise.' Although this might not be a major
> consideration
> > for some as the Libre aspects might not outweigh the gratis aspect.
> >
> > King regards and greetings to all,
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Dec 2021, 12:37 Shaun Bharth, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey hey,
> >>
> >> Idk but I think "User Stories" might be good to feature. The UX guys
> >> probably have done some research already before they generated their
> >> personas. This can form the basis of "Who LibreOffice was designed for".
> >> I'm not sure if a feature by feature comparison would actually be
> >> effective. My understanding is that people are emotional. Most people
> never
> >> use the full feature set of Microsoft Office. They use it because
> EVERYBODY
> >> DOES. My preference is to not compete directly per se with MS Office
> but as
> >> a complement. I think the existing angle is interoperability? That could
> >> work in the sense of MS Office at work, LibreOffice at home. "You're
> >> chained to the desk all day, why do it at home?" yada yada.
> >>
> >> Filipe's idea is quite a good one. I don't think Collabora has as much
> >> traction as LibreOffice and featuring them does help quite a bit i
> guess?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Shaun
> >>
> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 1:28 AM Filipe Gomes Morgado <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Bearing in mind the topic, I would like to contribute with my opinion,
> >>> which I think is very important to mention or express the facts:
> >>>        - Open source or FOSS;
> >>>        - LibreOffice runs on macOS, Linux, and Windows,
> >>>        - “While The Document Foundation doesn't currently offer an
> Android
> >> or
> >>> iOS version of LibreOffice, there is a LibreOffice-based product in app
> >>> stores from Collabora, one of our certified developers and ecosystem
> >>> members” at: https://www.libreoffice .org/download/android-and-ios/ .
> >>>
> ---------------------------------x---------------------------------------
> >>> Leaving the topic a bit, but not wanting to overlap the topic, I also
> >> think
> >>> that a part related to support should be incorporated, or else in
> another
> >>> document.
> >>> Therefore, it should have a kind of table where, in an easy way and not
> >>> dispersed over several places or web pages, information could be gauged
> >> in
> >>> terms of support solutions. The numbers and names being just an
> example,
> >>> something like:
> >>>
> >>> < 5 computers –> we recommend that at least 2 employees take a
> >>> training/course at https://www.libreoffice.org/ , with the price xx€,
> or
> >>> at
> >>> the partner https://www.udemy.com/topic/libreoffice/ , with the price
> >> xx€.
> >>> Or see https://www.documentfoundation.org/gethelp/trainers/ , priced
> >> from
> >>> xx€ to xx€.
> >>>
> >>> 5 – 20 computers –> we recommend that you contact the Collabora
> partner,
> >>> with the price xx€.
> >>>
> >>> 21 – xx –> Et Cetera … “17€/user per year” in
> >>> https://www.collaboraoffice.com/subscriptions/ .
> >>>
> >>> This would have to involve the collaboration and contribution of
> >> ecosystem
> >>> members, and it would have to be very easy to interpret in order to
> allow
> >>> for decision making. Entrepreneurs don't mind paying, after all, they
> >>> already pay for Microsoft Office, what they want is problems solved and
> >> not
> >>> other problems, such as having to find scattered information.
> >>> In my opinion, it would be a very useful tool to present the LO, it
> could
> >>> have a link on the new - :) - webpage where it could be viewed or
> >>> downloaded, and in case it was not consulted, it could be sent as an
> >>> attachment in an email or still delivered by hand after printing, by
> >>> someone who wants to publicize the LO.
> >>> It would be - if  another document - an *Official* document -
> >> e-flyer/flyer
> >>> -, with translations in several languages, to wake up to a later
> >>> consultation that the entrepreneur or his collaborator would make in
> more
> >>> depth at: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/feedback/ ;
> >>> /community-support/ ; /professional-support/ , ...
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Filipe.
> >>> Filipe Gomes Morgado *is using:*
> >>>
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