Doesn't this imply there are some unofficial and, thereby, untrustworthy editions in circulation?
Nige > On 23 Oct 2020, at 06:44, Simon Phipps <[email protected]> wrote: > > Taking on board all the concerns about not giving the impression of a > weaker version, and if "no label" is really not an option, how about > calling TDF's package "official edition"? > > S. > >> On Fri, 23 Oct 2020, 14:31 Marc Paré, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Perhaps Italo could chime in and inform us if having "no label is not an >> option". We have to be consistent in a marketing plan, whether short or >> long-term. >> >> But, for me, the preference would be to continue with no label if this >> is an option, however, if a label is needed, "Community Edition" is what >> I would prefer. From my perspective, there is no negative connotation, >> the public will get exactly what it is, a version of LibreOffice built >> by members of the volunteer community and used by the members of the >> TDF/LibreOffice. I don't believe that new-comers to LibreOffice site >> will see the "LibreOffice Community Edition" as a negative, as long as >> our website messaging is clear on the TDF and LibreOffice Mission >> Statements. >> >> As for any commercial versions of LibreOffice, then "Powered by" is >> still my preferred, regardless of any community label. >> >> But, really, Italo should chime in and set us straight, again, and >> inform us if going with no label is an option. There is nothing wrong >> with going back on a marketing plan, but as long as we are being >> consistent in our planning discussions. More members need to chime in on >> this important discussion ... I am surprised that non of the board >> members nor any of the implicated commercially-connected members are not >> participating in this discussion that was called by Italo. Especially >> when Italo has set a deadline date for the discussion and then >> membership vote. More members need to be informed that this discussion >> is taking place; just so that the membership all get to have their say. >> >> Marc >> >>> Le 2020-10-23 à 07 h 40, Justin Luth a écrit : >>> +1 to what Uwe and Michael and Telesto have been saying. >>> >>> Personal / Community are not accurate labels because they imply >>> missing features. LibreOffice as we currently know it is full >>> featured. By introducing these labels, you are signaling an intent to >>> "dumb down" LibreOffice. >>> >>> The current real distinction is around support. So, using Linux >>> terminology, a more accurate label would be LibreOffice Rolling verses >>> LibreOffice LTS. But that is geeky terminology, so for that reason it >>> probably isn't appropriate. >>> >>> Therefore since none of the suggested labels properly convey meaning, >>> I too prefer the supposedly unavailable "no label" solution for TDF >>> builds. >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> >>>> On 10/21/20 11:52 AM, Uwe Altmann wrote: >>>> Hi >>>> >>>>> Am 20.10.20 um 10:50 schrieb Michael Weghorn: >>>>> >>>>> If "no label is not an option" (as stated by Italo), I'd currently >>>>> prefer something like "TDF Edition" over "Personal Edition" or >>>>> "Community Edition" as well, given the negative/misleading connotations >>>>> the latter may result in. >>>> "no label is not an option" is Italos and some others - professional >>>> as I have to admit - option. 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