Hi,

Le 18/09/2014 14:05, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
> 
> On 18 septembre 2014 12:49:50 CEST, Cor Nouws <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Florian Effenberger wrote on 18-09-14 12:13:
>> 
>>>> So you suggest we do not experiment with anything?
>>> 
>>> it's just my personal opinion - if each project hosts their
>> discussion
>>> somewhere else, chaos will break free. Plus, the entry barrier
>>> for Redmine is much higher than for a mailing list, which makes
>>> me fear
>> we
>>> would exclude people if we exclusively focus on that.
>> 
>> I've only read Charles initial mail (well and this short one) What
>> I thought of:
>> 
>> RedMine is great. Project focussed working. OK Furthermore: I think
>> additionally a mailing list is important. Just that people can ask
>> questions. Or to send some not one x/y/z.. Also, if just all great
>> ideas are added (sometimes it may look like dumping) at Redmine,
>> wouldn't that incline the risk of causing a mess. Could be
>> coordinated via mail ;/
> 
> Yes indeed.
> 
>> 
>> Charles: you think of doing all that via the discuss-list ??
> 
> Well the point is to ensure that the discussions remain on the
> discuss list abd the work goes on Redmine. To answer Florian: I think
> today we have metrics showing we do not gain any contributors through
> the marketing mailing list but spend lots of energy maintaining it. I
> suggest we refrain from posting on it for 1 month and see how we feel
> about it...
> 

I, for one, am subscribed to the libreoffice Marketing and the Design
lists (among others). Both lists "managers" (sorry, can't find an
appropriate wording here) have decided to go the Redmine route. I
understand this is much better for the workflows.

I have to say that I appreciate receiving news through the lists
channels, even though I don't post much. Stopping these channels won't
bring information any more to the public about what's going on, the
design paths that are taken. Thus, to me, as I probably won't have much
time to visit the LibreOffice Redmines, the project life will now turn
to be much on the stupid users side and I shall be deprived from much
insight.

I think leaving the Design and Marketing lists is a big mistake. Many
people might be like me: listening much and speaking little. The fact
that there's little incoming traffic doesn't mean there's no interest.


Hence, I join my voice to Florian's one and kindly ask for a second
thought on both the concerned lists.
-- 
Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux

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