On 2025-09-18 08:34, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote:
*.googleusercontent.com should not only not be sending email (either change PTR,
or use a relay) so you can go beyond scoring, and simply reject.

Also, given the history of abuse and/or compromises, we also recommend that you do NOT allow email authentication from those IPs, except as permitted in an allow
.acl.

Make sense?

I concur.
We've been dropping packets originating from them without so much as an ACK for some 5yrs. Without *any* repercussions. Just reject. Your life will be much better for it. :)


On 2025-09-16 07:58, Scott Q. via mailop wrote:
Sorry for reviving an older thread, we are still battling this Google spam issue.

Anyone else scoring e-mails directly received from IPs with a PTR of *.googleusercontent.com ? Any downside to doing this ?

Gmail/Workspace doesn't use that PTR but are there legitimate Google services that do ?

Thanks!
Scott

On Thursday, 04/09/2025 at 16:21 Alex Burch wrote:

    They might have legacy accounts where port 25 is unblocked. I think
    Infusionsoft/Keap had their IPs hosted at GCP at one point and they
    had the port 25 block lifted to send with them.
    Thanks,
    Alex


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    On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 9:12 AM Scott Q. via mailop
    <mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:

        I get that, but the question is more whether GCP blocks outbound
        port 25 or not.

        Their docs say they are blocking it:
        https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail
        <https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/tutorials/sending-mail>

        yet we see evidence to the contrary. Surely it's a configuration
        mistake somewhere (?).

        Maybe someone from Google can shed some light on this.

        Thanks!

On Thursday, 04/09/2025 at 11:25 Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote:

            Careful.. the list admins don't like us using this list to
            complain
            about spam, but yeah..

            Anything with a PTR of 1.132.64.34.bc.googleusercontent.com
            <http://1.132.64.34.bc.googleusercontent.com>. is suspect,
            and should be rejected (port 25) ...

            Standard ruleset for a couple of years.. but even more
            important, is the
            number of IPs in those ranges used in email hacking, and BEC
            Compromise
            attacks.

            You might even like to block attempts to other ports by
            default, and
            create a 'permitted' acl for IPs in those ranges for
            legitimate use.

            On 2025-09-04 07:55, Scott Q. via mailop wrote:
             > Anyone else seeing an uptick lately of Spam e-mails
            originating from
             > these ranges ?
             >
             > 34.64.132.0/22 <http://34.64.132.0/22>
             > 35.240.0.0/13 <http://35.240.0.0/13>
             >
             > Mostly e-mails with: Content-Type: text/plain;
            charset="iso-2022-jp"
             >
             > What's interesting is that GCP has outbound port 25
            blocked by default
             > yet these hosts are able to do direct-to-mx deliveries.
             >
> If anyone from Google is reading this - can you have a look ?
             >
             > Thanks!
             > Scott
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