I'm actually curious about this - what makes AWS so special in
terms of running VMs ? They provide something akin to VMWare's Fault
Tolerance on all instances ?

Otherwise, if the host goes down, so does your vm.

Scott​

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On Wednesday, 09/04/2025 at 16:54 L. Mark Stone via mailop wrote:



Sorry Michael and Scott that I wasn't clearer, and thanks for your
replies.

The Zimbra email software we use requires Linux instances, either
Ubuntu 22, RHEL9 or selected clones.  No docker containers,
microservices etc.

AWS has a lot of built-in infrastructure redundancy and resiliency
we'd ideally like to retain (S3 has eleven nines of durability for
example; EBS volumes are continuously replicated on at least two
storage frames at all times, etc.).

We are not at all looking for an emailing service like AWS's SES, or
to use a forwarder, SEG or similar.  We need like AWS m7i and r7i
instances, with multiple block storage disks of different speeds and
sizes, and, ideally some lower cost S3-like storage for older mail
blobs.

Some hosters do not allow outbound TCP port 25; that would be a
requirement in our case.

Thanks, 
Mark 

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Winner of the Zimbra Americas VAR Partner of the Year 2024 Award

----- Original Message -----
| From: "Scott" 
| To: "L. Mark Stone" , "mailop" 
| Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2025 3:16:49 PM
| Subject: Re: [mailop] Email-Friendly B2B Infrastructure Hosting

| So you are looking for infrastructure and the client brings his own
software ?
| Maybe something running OpenStack ?

| https://cleura.com/
| https://www.open-telekom-cloud.com/en/benefits/openstack

| Scott

| On Wednesday, 09/04/2025 at 13:41 L. Mark Stone via mailop wrote:

|| To provide hosting for a prospective Euro-based customer, we are
looking for an
|| AWS-like competitor to host an email system supporting some 10K
users.

|| AWS-like infrastructure redundancy/resiliency and security is
preferred.

|| The prospective customer is endeavoring to avoid utilizing US-based
hosting
|| providers, so AWS, Azure, OCI etc. are not viable options.

|| Thanks,
|| Mark

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