On 03/04/2025 15:17, Bastian Blank via mailop wrote:
That's why example.{com,net,org}[RFC2606] exists.  No need to guess
then.  xxx.com on the other side is a pretty valid domain.

Fair point, noted.

Here's a real example, using an organization that is listed publicly as a
Proofpoint customer:
   IN CNAME _dmarc.gcu.edu.dmarc.has.pphosted.com.

This looks pretty broken to begin with, but unrelated to the problem at
question:
https://dnsviz.net/d/_dmarc.gcu.edu.dmarc.has.pphosted.com/dnssec/

Thanks - that's a really useful website. I note that it states the following error:

A query for _dmarc.gcu.edu.dmarc.has.pphosted.com results in a NOERROR response, while a query for its ancestor, edu.dmarc.has.pphosted.com, returns a name error (NXDOMAIN), which indicates that subdomains of edu.dmarc.has.pphosted.com, including _dmarc.gcu.edu.dmarc.has.pphosted.com, don't exist. See RFC 8020, Sec. 2.

I'm not sure that's related, but it surely doesn't help.

Which is weird, as this server behaves like a PowerDNS in online signing
mode (all signatures are valid from thursday to thursday three weeks
later and every server returns a different one).

I'll see if I can get our client to raise a ticket with Proofpoint - they are a Proofpoint customer as well.

Andy

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