Reminds me of the old “five hundred mile email” 
https://web.mit.edu/jemorris/humor/500-miles


--srs
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From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> on behalf of Mark Delany via mailop 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 4:29:09 AM
To: mailop@mailop.org <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] SMTP Submission issues with latest macOS Mail.app

On 19Feb25, Viktor Dukhovni via mailop apparently wrote:

> > Is this regardless of the type of attachment sent?  I just tested a
> > message with an attached ".txt" file, and it got through submission into
> > Postfix just fine.

Turns out that small attachments work, but...

> You could try Apple's "Connection Doctor" and enable logging of the

Good tip. That shows the client sending the full SMTP transaction but only the 
first 'n'
bytes are making it to the server which in turned led us to take a closer look 
at the
network traffic and...

...it turns out to be an asymmetric routing issue.

We'd recently added an additional route to the submission server and an 
unintended
side-effect is that the output part of the submission traffic is now sent out 
one
interface and the input part is coming in on another interface - for an 
infrequently
used client subnet.

As to why this is causing a problem, I don't yet know, but clearly one of the 
stacks
doesn't like it, or maybe a firewall state is dropping packets. In any event 
there is now
a root cause to work on which is not mail related.

Thanks for the suggestions, Viktor.

A reminder of that old advice, always be suspicious of recent changes, 
regardless of how
innocent or irrelevant they may seem.


Mark.
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