Don't even get me started on SendGrid..

two years on and the same actors are still abusing their systems.. We attempted to reach out to help them with this problem, and ended up with them not able to do anything .. upper level didn't want the change..

So much phishing from their IPs.. this isn't just a spam problem.

Their shared IPs are the worst, transparency needs work, and they don't interact with threat teams..

Any time a companies practices are responsible for ordinary people getting hacked, loosing money, fraud.. frankly, have no sympathy..

Too funny though, when their IPs end up on RBL's, I don't think they even care..

Frankly, many ESP's fraud/security departments have seemed to have gone down hill the last couple of years.

On 2024-10-14 03:31, Paul Menzel via mailop wrote:
Dear mail operators,


Since at least September 17th, 2024, we receive a lot of unsolicited messages from SendGrid. I forwarded five to ab...@sendgrid.net, but there was no reply and the problem persists. Today at least five messages from xvfrkpcc.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [168.245.19.204] slipped the spam filter and three with the same subject were blocked, so SendGrid should have gotten at least some feedback.

This time the phishing URL in the message is


https://doc[.]hr-desk-department[.]com/mo4/mod.jsp?top=someth...@molgen.mpg.de

Is there something else I can do despite forwarding messages to ab...@sendgrid.net? Should SendGrid do better? (At least they have an abuse address in contrast to Google Mail requiring reports to copy and past parts of a message to a Web form.)


Kind regards,

Paul


PS: Header excerpt:

    Received: from xvfrkpcc.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net (xvfrkpcc.outbound-mail.sendgrid.net [168.245.19.204])
       by c1241.mx.srv.dfn.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65481600F5
       for <meiss...@molgen.mpg.de>; Mon, 14 Oct 2024 12:06:36 +0200 (CEST)
    DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ease-servicesgroup.com;

h=content-type:from:mime-version:subject:reply-to:to:list-unsubscribe:
       list-unsubscribe-post:cc:content-type:from:subject:to;
       s=s1; bh=U7N4y/Ry+I3sfP3WHrzcEmwz9l36d3Mi0VNYQpzxfVs=;

b=nWv2BmwqCrFotddVn3xPbe+L4n/6wVFghJGERAhOQzFcMDre2Kd9NnU2ldh92TfFm/Lm

YuUDSrme+JlexFfOWoGVPak07SC1nT3pUOf3wG64/Lv1R2i/uMnHnD1rt6n3sATTaleLYP

E0tH+/9/xx5GdKIFqcSSSrVI7MhAzzrEcnYR/MyD8eSo8B9L1l5dO0hvaNZzRI5fB0pWK5

Q7RhQmpnnzwlv1JMqkh+fq3wumRszs50/KSDDDh3Z61ZDK4f2CRRpSm+69VQ/n8yYGWvug
       WGfnhIjHS3hELuy8Lv/2werx69oHeV6YVTRJyoStzmirngWsaL8Ce9x2xPPDVeqw==
    Received: by recvd-78b9697b7d-kp2cq with SMTP id recvd-78b9697b7d-kp2cq-1-670CEC66-36
       2024-10-14 10:03:18.469218522 +0000 UTC m=+2736439.469406983
     Received: from NDc1MDE3MDM (unknown)
       by geopod-ismtpd-35 (SG) with HTTP
       id bnpIbHmzSVmcvRtiDGNhvw
       Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:03:18.417 +0000 (UTC)
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=795ea38de6285bbd332f8f29f31f9cdc2d1c8743ab7def25052431d0c760
     Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:03:20 +0000 (UTC)
     From: HR Department <hr-department.ad...@ease-servicesgroup.com>
     Mime-Version: 1.0
     Message-ID: <bnpIbHmzSVmcvRtiDGNhvw@geopod-ismtpd-35>
     Subject: New Memo: meiss...@molgen.mpg.de - Annual Compliance Report
     Reply-To: hr-department.ad...@ease-servicesgroup.com

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