On Sat, 2024-06-29 at 10:31 +1000, Viktor Dukhovni via mailop wrote:
> 
> Reading your first post brought to mind the recent report of potential
> issues at Microsoft's outbound servers with "too many" TLSA records
> (more than ~12).  I was looking at your TLSA RRset (14 TLSA records):

I've been busy elsewhere and I guess I missed out on that.  There was a
post here (Tony?) sometime back about about updating TLSA records used
with Let's Encrypt and I tried to future-proof by adding both the RSA
and ECDSA records.

[snip]

> 
> That said, do you really need all 14 records?
> 
>     R3   8d02536c887482bc34ff54e41d2ba659bf85b341a0a20afadb5813dcfbcf286d
>     R4   e5545e211347241891c554a03934cde9b749664a59d26d615fe58f77990f2d03
>     --
>     E1   276fe8a8c4ec7611565bf9fce6dcace9be320c1b5bea27596b2204071ed04f10
>     E2   bd936e72b212ef6f773102c6b77d38f94297322efc25396bc3279422e0c89270
>     --
>     R10  2bbad93ab5c79279ec121507f272cbe0c6647a3aae52e22f388afab426b4adba
>     R11  6ddac18698f7f1f7e1c69b9bce420d974ac6f94ca8b2c761701623f99c767dc7
>     R12  919c0df7a787b597ed056ace654b1de9c0387acf349f73734a4fd7b58cf612a4
>     R13  025490860b498ab73c6a12f27a49ad5fe230fafe3ac8f6112c9b7d0aad46941d
>     R14  f1647a5ee3efac54c892e930584fe47979b7acd1c76c1271bca1c5076d869888
>     ---
>     E5   3586d4ecf070578cbd27aedce20b964e48bc149faeb9dad72f46b857869172b8
>     E6   d016e1fe311948aca64f2de44ce86c9a51ca041df6103bb52a88eb3f761f57d7
>     E7   cbbc559b44d524d6a132bdac672744da3407f12aae5d5f722c5f6c7913871c75
>     E8   885bf0572252c6741dc9a52f5044487fef2a93b811cdedfad7624cc283b7cdd5
>     E9   f1440a9b76e1e41e53a4cb461329bf6337b419726be513e42e19f1c691c5d4b2
> 
> The MX host in question has RSA-only certs, and the "E*" TLSA records
> are redundant.  If you force cert renewal, you'll be switched from R3
> to one of R10/R11, and can then drop the R3/R4 records too.
> 
> If that helps, someone with the right contacts to escalate this, should
> try to get through to Microsoft to fix what is I think a serious enough
> interoperability problem.
> 

Thank you for the detailed breakdown of the problem and resolution.  I have
removed the E* TLSA records and mails from Microsoft are flowing in.  I'll
make a note to remove the R3/R4 records next week and then plan for adding
the E* TLSA records back in and switching to ECDSA in the near future.

Thanks again Viktor, you've been an awesome help. 

-Jim P.


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