• Tobias Fiebig via mailop [2024-06-10 14:09]:
> Moin,
> are you sure the RRset is not inadvertently bogus? Can slip by rather
> easily for a set of reasons; Old RRSIGs vor example after one of the
> entries got updated?

no. LE TLSA RRs are generated automatically based on URL lists, so there
are neither dupes nor errors. zones are signed by ldns-signzone prior to
getting distributed to name servers for publishing.

> If not; Out of personal curiosity; can you test where 'the boundary' is
> to trigger the error? should be doable with like 4 test domains max
> (bin-search starting at 7 RR in the set).

_that_ was an interesting challenge indeed! the answer I got is 12: 12
TLSA RRs are OK, but when there are 13 or 14, emails are stuck somewhere
and would later trigger error message later on. (for sake of
completeness, I went all way with domains from 6 to 14 TLSA RRs)

> With best regards,
> Tobias
> 
> On Mon, 2024-06-10 at 12:36 +0200, Kirill Miazine via mailop wrote:
> > Apparently exchange online would provide an error to the user like
> > this:
> > 
> > dnssec-invalid: Destination domain returned invalid DNSSEC records
> > 
> > https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/troubleshoot/email-delivery/ndr/non-delivery-reports-in-exchange-online
> >  
> > explains what this really means:
> > 
> > The destination domain indicated it was DNSSEC-authentic, but
> > Exchange 
> > Online wasn't able to verify it as DNSSEC-authentic.
> > 
> > So the guess is that Exchange Online is getting in trouble when there
> > are more than a few TLSA records...
> > 
> > • Kirill Miazine via mailop [2024-06-10 12:06]:
> > > Although there are better alternatives to 2 1 1 with Let's Encrypt,
> > > some 
> > > still use 2 1 1, and it seems Exchange Online is not happy when
> > > there 
> > > are 14 TLSA records (why 14? because 
> > > https://letsencrypt.org/certificates/)... A good reason to not use
> > > 2 1 
> > > 1....
> > > 
> > >   ; TLSA - LE certs published at
> > > https://letsencrypt.org/certificates/
> > > -_le-tlsa       TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 276fe8a8c4ec7611565bf9fce6dcace9be320c1b5bea27596b2204071ed04f10 ;
> > > LE E1
> > > -               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > bd936e72b212ef6f773102c6b77d38f94297322efc25396bc3279422e0c89270 ;
> > > LE E2
> > > -               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 8d02536c887482bc34ff54e41d2ba659bf85b341a0a20afadb5813dcfbcf286d ;
> > > LE R3
> > > -               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > e5545e211347241891c554a03934cde9b749664a59d26d615fe58f77990f2d03 ;
> > > LE R4
> > > +_le-tlsa       TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 3586d4ecf070578cbd27aedce20b964e48bc149faeb9dad72f46b857869172b8 ;
> > > LE
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > d016e1fe311948aca64f2de44ce86c9a51ca041df6103bb52a88eb3f761f57d7
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 2bbad93ab5c79279ec121507f272cbe0c6647a3aae52e22f388afab426b4adba
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 6ddac18698f7f1f7e1c69b9bce420d974ac6f94ca8b2c761701623f99c767dc7
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > cbbc559b44d524d6a132bdac672744da3407f12aae5d5f722c5f6c7913871c75
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 885bf0572252c6741dc9a52f5044487fef2a93b811cdedfad7624cc283b7cdd5
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > f1440a9b76e1e41e53a4cb461329bf6337b419726be513e42e19f1c691c5d4b2
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 919c0df7a787b597ed056ace654b1de9c0387acf349f73734a4fd7b58cf612a4
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 025490860b498ab73c6a12f27a49ad5fe230fafe3ac8f6112c9b7d0aad46941d
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > f1647a5ee3efac54c892e930584fe47979b7acd1c76c1271bca1c5076d869888
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 8d02536c887482bc34ff54e41d2ba659bf85b341a0a20afadb5813dcfbcf286d
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > 276fe8a8c4ec7611565bf9fce6dcace9be320c1b5bea27596b2204071ed04f10
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > e5545e211347241891c554a03934cde9b749664a59d26d615fe58f77990f2d03
> > > +               TLSA    2 1 1 
> > > bd936e72b212ef6f773102c6b77d38f94297322efc25396bc3279422e0c89270
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