I agree, but only to a point. Cryptographic protocols such as TLS 1.0/1.1 are 
still usable and strong against attackers with limited resources. The issue is 
that hardware is now a commodity that is only getting cheaper and more 
powerful. As such, it is now much easier to break the TLS1.0/1.1 encryption and 
decode the messages. 

We as the caretakers must try to balance protection and usability. We control 
the front door and as a community will agree on how to secure it. There are 
those who will not want to go with the higher security requirements and that is 
fine. If both parties cannot agree on an encryption level, then the connection 
will not be allowed. All other software and services, the connection will be 
denied. eMail is the only one (there may be more) I have seen to accept a 
connection if there is no agreed security and allow cleartext transport. 

To add one last point. TLS 1.2 has been in use for about 10 years. At this 
moment, most browsers and servers use TLS 1.3 with TLS 1.2 as a fallback. 

Thanks,
 
Michael Irvine

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Brotman, Alex via mailop skrev den 2024-05-20 15:09:
> Hey folks,
>
> Over the next few weeks, we're going to be disabling TLSv1/v1.1 
> inbound to our platform.  Most senders are already using TLSv1.2/v1.3, 
> so I don't think this will be an issue.  However, keep in mind that if 
> you're not already using those newer versions, you'll now revert to 
> clear-text. Around the same time, we'll also begin negatively 
> impacting reputation for clear-text senders (those without 
> TLSv1.2/v1.3).  It won't be a huge impact, but many senders are 
> extremely cautious in these areas.  If you have questions, please let me know.

i say disabling tls versions is plain stupid to make plain text a bigger 
problem, simply don't make that kind of security

if comcast.net have found a bug in openssl, please make a ticket for this, so 
it will be fixed in openssl

i don't like your wording on "hey something"


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