On 06.05.2024 at 19:22 K. M. Peterson via mailop wrote:

The latest rejections, this morning, were from iCloud.com and indicated that 
the sending IP was on the Spamhaus BL list - with a link to query Spamhaus for 
more info.  But the link returns that the IP "has no issues".  Last week, 
however, I'd tangled with Spamhaus as a NDR from 
outlook.com<http://outlook.com> had a reference to my being on the Spamhaus CSS 
list.  I requested removal, and I was unblocked again in a couple of hours.  I 
used the "general" IP lookup at check.spamhaus.org<http://check.spamhaus.org> 
again today, and am again listed on the CSS list (only).  I requested removal 
again, and it looks like I've been granted that.

But the question is why am I showing up?  The CSS detail indicated that 
connections from my IP had been made with "technical values and unusual sending 
behaviors" - which is not very useful.  There were three connections listed; 
checking logs all of these were to Gmail (all successful).

I'm going to have to put together some sort of automated reporting of when I 
get blacklisted, but does anyone have any ideas what Google would have been 
unhappy about?  Usual disclaimers: personal server, heavily monitored, fully 
patched, cloud instance, DMARC/DKIM/SPF aligned, 3 users, etc.

Did you open a ticket with Spamhaus? With only three users it should be easy to 
pinpoint the offending connections, as long as it’s not a false positive by 
Spamhaus, which a ticket should clear up.
The listing don’t necessarily have to be caused by regular emails that your 
server sent. It’s also possible that some kind backscatter triggered it. For 
example by rejecting/bouncing emails later on in the pipeline after they have 
been accepted in the first place. Or by using techniques like callback 
verification / sender address probes.

P. S. There was another service I haven't heard of likely using Spamhaus as 
well, an outbound message held up last week for many hours with 
"relay=mx1.hc2706-39.iphmx.com<http://mx1.hc2706-39.iphmx.com>[216.71.137.79]:25,
 delay=4695, delays=4694/0.02/0.79/0, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host 
mx1.hc2706-39.iphmx.com<http://mx1.hc2706-39.iphmx.com>[216.71.137.79] refused 
to talk to me: 
554-esa6.hc2706-39.iphmx.com<http://554-esa6.hc2706-39.iphmx.com> 554 Your 
access to this mail system has been rejected due to the sending MTA's poor 
reputation. If you believe that this failure is in error, please contact the 
intended recipient via alternate means.)" which is even less helpful.  That 
seems to have been cleared at the time of the (first) Spamhaus CSS removal.


iphmx.com is Ironport hosted mail exchange and currently goes by the marketing 
term „Cisco Cloud Email Security“. It is relying on a service named Talos 
Senderbase which is using different signals to rate incoming connections. 
Basically a listing at Spamhaus will have such a negative impact that the 
result is usually equal to being blacklisted on Ciscos systems and all of their 
customers as well.

—
BR Oliver
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