On 2024-04-19 at 07:21:47 UTC-0400 (Fri, 19 Apr 2024 12:21:47 +0100)
Sebastian Arcus via mailop <s.ar...@open-t.co.uk>
is rumored to have said:

On 18/04/2024 14:05, Marco Moock via mailop wrote:
Am 18.04.2024 schrieb Bill Cole via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>:

I can't say that Spamhaus lists IPs that engage in the abusive
practice of remote sender verification but I would be happy to hear
that they are doing so and CSS+XBL listing is a reasonable expression
of that sort of world-hostile behavior.

If that sender verification includes trying to send an email until
RCPT TO:, this is abusive in many cases and also uceprotect will list
such servers.

I would have to look further into this, but I was under the impression that Exim uses the VRFY command for callout verification?

If it does that, it is a menace to both ends of the connection. The problem is that the site asking for verification is exporting its mail authentication load to both senders (acceptable) and random forged unrelated 3rd parties, which is not acceptable. The vast majority of SMTP mail servers have not answered usefully to VRFY in this millennium, so if you were to ask one of those, your answer may bear no relationship to reality. Which is fair.

Just to be 100% clear: your first step must be to turn off sender verification.

Whether that solves your Spamhaus problem, I cannot say. It will help you avoid a thousand little less-visible reputation problems that you may be building with every attempt to verify the sender of a forged spam.


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