Hi Claudio,

About Libero (IOL) try to use a single connection. I got that error by
using 2 concurrent connections from the same IP: you can send very
fast but you can only use a single connection. I've never been able to
get in touch with a Libero postmaster recently.

About Yahoo from what I saw they have an hourly rate limiting that is
being reset at the 30 minute of each hour and a daily limit that
resets at 3 in the night (CET): the 2 limits depend on your IP
reputation, so you can try delaying 1 hour for the first retries and 1
day for the next ones, until yahoo learn your IP reputation. Yahoo
postmaster is here in the list.

Stefano

On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 at 01:07, Claudio Faoro via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> a couple of weeks ago I configured a new Postfix server, it's used 
> exclusively by a newsletter service with 20000 subscribers.
> The newsletter service has been active for more than 10 years on a very old 
> server running qmail.
> Unfortunately, I had to decommission the old qmail server in a few days, 
> replacing it with the new one. It was not possible to keep the same IP 
> address.
> I've correctly configured the SPF, DKIM, DMARC and PTR records 
> (mail-tester.com gives me 10/10).
> The first few days, I had problems delivering mail to several providers due 
> to the amount of messages. I guess it's partly due to the new IP.
> For example:
>
> Mar 30 15:37:00 mx1 postfix/smtp[2021]: 6940F7FF09: to=<REDACTED>, 
> relay=mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net[188.125.72.74]:25, delay=3473, 
> delays=0.47/3472/0.71/0.04, dsn=4.7.0, status=deferred (host 
> mx-eu.mail.am0.yahoodns.net[188.125.72.74] said: 421 4.7.0 [TSS04] Messages 
> from REDACTED temporarily deferred due to unexpected volume or user 
> complaints - 4.16.55.1; see https://postmaster.yahooinc.com/error-codes (in 
> reply to MAIL FROM command))
>
> After a few mailings, the situation seems to have stabilized, Yahoo no longer 
> gave me problems.
> Unfortunately, a good percentage of our subscribers use an email address from 
> Italiaonline/IOL (libero.it, virgilio.it, iol.it, inwind.it, etc...).
> Most of the emails to IOL get bounced:
>
> Mar 30 00:15:40 mx1 postfix/smtp[51700]: 509762617D: to=<REDACTED>, 
> relay=smtp-in.libero.it[213.209.1.129]:25, delay=116950, 
> delays=116848/101/0.09/1.1, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host 
> smtp-in.libero.it[213.209.1.129] said: 451 too many messages, slow down. 
> [smtp-22.iol.local; LIB_650] (in reply to end of DATA command))
>
> The limit is triggered very quickly and it's removed after several hours.
> I tried to throttle the sending to IOL addresses on Postfix 
> (destination_concurrency_limit = 2 and destination_rate_delay = 300s), but I 
> keep getting capped after a while.
> I don't have much information regarding the old qmail server, but it seems 
> that there were not all these problems (there wasn't even DKIM and DMARC 
> configured!).
>
> I don't understand how to resolve these problems with the libero.it mailboxes 
> (and more generally, with all Italiaonline mailboxes). Do you have a contact 
> in Italiaonline who can help me?
> Any info would help me, thanks in advance.
>
> Regards,
> Claudio



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Stefano Bagnara
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