>
> That's precisely the problem: As long as you don't enforce STARTTLS, you
> do not raise the bar or improve security by disabling TLS 1.0 or 1.1,
> because the least secure "protocol", namely no encryption at all, is still
> enabled.
>

Yes! I entirely agree with that!

Le jeu. 14 mars 2024 à 10:45, Gellner, Oliver via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
a écrit :

> On 14.03.2024 at 09:37 Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote:
>
> > We previously were accepting only TLS 1.2 and higher and I was surprised
> to see the amount of senders not being able to find common ciphers (I had
> mostly encounters with Cisco users), so we decided to also accept TLS 1.0
> and 1.1.
> > But in my opinion, moving the needle upward by not accepting deprecated
> versions would force those users to be compliant and improve the general
> security.
>
> That's precisely the problem: As long as you don't enforce STARTTLS, you
> do not raise the bar or improve security by disabling TLS 1.0 or 1.1,
> because the least secure "protocol", namely no encryption at all, is still
> enabled.
> For services which only allow encrypted connections I'm all for removing
> support for TLS 1.1 and everything below. But we cannot enforce TLS on the
> public MX servers as long as no large ESPs make this move first.
>
> --
> BR Oliver
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