On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 23:33:13 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
> Dnia 17.11.2023 o godz. 14:34:19 Lukas Tribus via mailop pisze:
> >
> > Google probably wants you to enable STARTTLS, so reducing sending
> > limits for non STARTTLS senders can make sense from Google's POV.
>
> That thread makes me wonder, how come anybody is sending mail without
> STARTTLS now? When all major MTAs do it just by default?
Is Google and other operators demoting senders without STARTTLS
support a step in the direction of mandatory STARTTLS some day?
It would be interesting if the community could coordinate some
"Flag Day", as was done for IPv6 in 2011 (major websites enabled
IPv6 for one day) and 2012 (enabled IPv6 permanently), and for
DNS in 2019 (to enforce EDNS compatibility).
Such coordinated approach 1/ creates visibility and 2/ avoids
any single party to be the one to blame for being "too strict".
It has been successful for the above mentioned examples.
Geert
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