Hi all, I just wanted to chime in here. I can confirm that this was a message 
sent to an email address @reflectiv.net which is hosted on Mailgun. We provide 
a routing feature that allows you to match received messages and then forward 
the email to another email address or application. We do also provide an 
inbound spam filter and I see that it isn't enabled for this domain. With 
inbound spam filtering enabled it may help prevent messages like this one from 
being forwarded.

Thanks,

Nick Schafer | Sr. Manager of Deliverability & Compliance
n...@mailgun.com<mailto:n...@mailgun.com>
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and are confidential. If you receive this message in error, please destroy it 
and notify the sender immediately.
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From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> on behalf of Michael Peddemors via 
mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2023 7:37 PM
To: mailop@mailop.org <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Valid SPF/DKIM/DMARC *SPAM* coming from my domain ?!

host reflectiv.net
reflectiv.net has address 75.2.60.5
reflectiv.net mail is handled by 10 mxb.mailgun.org.
reflectiv.net mail is handled by 10 mxa.mailgun.org.

Ummm....

Now, it is pretty obvious that this is sent via MailGun, which of course
needs to improve it's outbound filters, seeing way too much phishing
coming from them lately.. (copying SendGrid?)

Received: from reflectiv.net (os3-384-25366.vs.sakura.ne.jp
[133.167.109.120]) by db739d28cce8 with SMTP id <undefined>; Wed, 11 Jan
2023 00:26:59 GMT

(Note: It doesn't say it was ESMTP or anything about authenticated user
in this case, any script can forge the EHLO)

Okay, the only valid thing is probably the source that logged in is
using a launching point in Japan..

Implement 2FA on your mailgun account..

However, this is why hackers like using those services.. if a domain has
mailgun/sendgrid in their SPF, it is like a get out of jail free card.

While not everyone can afford a dedicated IP on those services, it can
make it simpler to protect.



On 2023-01-11 13:00, Cyril - ImprovMX via mailop wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> Today, I received a spam ("I got full access to your computer and
> installed a trojan" kind of email). In general, I completely ignore
> these, but today was different:
>
> The sender and recipient were my own email! What's odd is that I did
> configure SPF (granted, with a "~") but also a DMARC reject policy.
>
> Looking at the email headers and also the output from GMail, both SPF
> and DKIM were successful ("pass"), which means the sender, somehow, was
> able to send an email using my account.
>
> I would love your input on the issue, but here are my thoughts so far:
>
> 1. My account was compromised, and the password was leaked, allowing
> that user to send an email with my account. This would make sense, but
> the sending account was only used to be configured within GMail. As soon
> as the password was generated, I pasted it on GMail and never saved it
> elsewhere.
> 2. Theoretically, if I were to create an account on Mailgun, I would be
> able to send an email from my account and have a valid SPF for any other
> services that use Mailgun too (since their SPF would include Mailgun's
> IPs), but it wouldn't explain the valid DKIM though. For this, Mailgun
> should only allow my account to be able to send using my domain.
> 3. Did Mailgun have any database leak that I wasn't aware of?
>
> Of course, as soon as I saw this email, I generated a new password for
> my account, but I still wonder how this could have happened. I would
> appreciate if you had any insights I've missed that would make sense.
>
> Here are the headers from the email with my end email redacted:
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2FknqbTa8K&data=05%7C01%7Cnick%40mailgun.com%7Cb5ab20c8d23140c8a0f308daf43e27b8%7C3b518aae89214a7b8497619d756ce20e%7C0%7C0%7C638090845078111836%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=RFhFe7lr4B2Q9V4Ij8NNFaQFM582k2tfMikEEPmr3p8%3D&reserved=0
>  
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