On 6 May 2022, at 3:48, Dan Mahoney via mailop wrote:

> If you’re already doing DKIM and SPF anyway, arc is another milter in the 
> chain that gives you that benefit. (You want it after your DKIM and DMARC 
> validators). You can leverage your same DKIM keys to use arc (or a different 
> one), but it’s largely the same idea. Right now nobody is validating arc, but 
> this is largely because nobody’s signing/sealing with it…because nobody is 
> validating it…because nobody is signing/sealing with it….someone needs to 
> move first.

I think there's slightly more at play. Besides "trusting" the big ones, how 
would gushi.org know that it can trust libertad.link's ARC signatures? Or posed 
in a different way, what prevents spammer.co to make a false attestation to 
send spam made to look like it was sent from some innocent bystander?

How do we make this scale?

I think the response to those issues are in part the cause for the loop you 
cleverly explained before.

Best regards

-lem
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