On 2022-02-23 at 17:49 +0100, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote:
> Why are you looking for a webmail close to Gmail? Gmail's webmail
> interface is one of the worst possible. It is very inefficient to
> operate,
> counter-intuitive, hides many important information from the user
> etc., not mentioning that it is simply ugly. There are many much
> nicer and more user-friendly webmails, like for example already
> mentioned Roundcube.

Probably because that's the client they are currently using. IMHO this
was the most interesting part of the query. Choosing the right MTA is
interesting for the sysadmin, but an implementation detail. There are
many good options, and I'm sure John would do fine with pretty much any
of them (add / remove some amount of initial sweating).
However, the UI… the interface is a completely different matter. You
could completely change the backend and your users won't even notice.
But change slightly the position of a button and Aunt Tillie will start
complaining how you broke everything and she is now unable to work with
the 'new system'

And here we are talking about a major migration to a completely
different interface. It won't be a problem if the users are reasonable
and a bit savvy, but the "for the family" bit makes me think that he
may have some users of that breed.
I would be interested in how it turns out.

Personally, I don't think Gmail it's *that* ugly. It has its
shortcomings, particularly it doesn't have full threading, and I have
found it doesn't let me insert/attach files with the "Modern"
interface.

I would happily provide a Gmail-like webmail look to my users. Some
users really like having their in gmail, and I have not received a
clear answer showing that it is objectively better than the webmail
they have at their disposal.

There is a commercial roundcube skin which claims to make it look like
Gmail, but I haven't tested it. I suspect it might change some parts to
look more like gmail, but only partially, which could be worse than
actually making it look like a separate products.

John, I would explore as well the option of them installing a local
client, such as Thunderbid, instead of using a webmail. If they always
use the same client machine)s), that setup should work fine, and a
local client will be more potent.

Maybe I will test some of the clients on that list.

A portion of them simply connect to the IMAP server, so you could
switch webmails (or even provide different ones at the same time) with
no consequences.
But I think some do require that you use *their* MTA.


Finally, another point you may want to take into account when
evaluating the software are the security fixes. If the programs you
install are packaged by your distribution, you may update them with a
simple upgrade of the systems. However, with separate apps will be more
complicated. And nowadays some servers/webmails aren't really supported
in upstream.


Best regards


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