On 2021-12-18 08:39, yuv via mailop wrote:
On Sat, 2021-12-18 at 15:13 +0100, Alexey Shpakovsky via mailop wrote:
On Sat, December 18, 2021 13:50, yuv via mailop wrote:
What makes the difference between [the smoothly running messaging
systems] and internet email?

I believe answer is centralization and to some extent lack of
backwards compatibility requirement.

what is it that centralization brings to those systems?  after all,
they also consists of numerous independent parties communicating with
one another over electronic devices, exactly like internet email.

Among other things, the barrier to entry is higher with many/most services verifying at least a phone number (and sometimes the hardware itself).

As an example, you can only create a certain number of @iCloud.com email addresses from a single device over a fixed period of time, and resetting the device doesn't reset your limit. There are probably thresholds to how quickly you can register and change iMessage addresses too although I haven't encountered or explored them.

Even just verifying a phone number adds a real world cost to switching identities which makes blocking far more effective.

This is beyond the obvious "single party in control", running the servers and clients all at once and having a vested interest in the user experience all have their benefits.

As much as I am a fan of open and decentralized, there are advantages and disadvantages.

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