It seems that bsdly.net is not working. I cannot ping or connect to
the website mentioned.

On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:00:51 -0500,
Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen via mailop wrote:
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> Just to add to the datapoints of services ‘gone bad’ ― I suspect the story 
> behind several of these episodes is that whoever actually knew how their 
> systems worked left the organization, and whoever is left to take over is not 
> actually up to the task, and bad things happen.
> 
> I’m fairly convinced that was what happened in this case from a few years 
> back 
> https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2017/08/twenty-plus-years-on-smtp-callbacks-are.html
>  
> <https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2017/08/twenty-plus-years-on-smtp-callbacks-are.html>.
>  It is anyway fairly clear that whoever did great labour in an effort to 
> avoid actually answering questions did not have a clue how any of this 
> actually works.
> 
> Another frequent problem is that the list maintainers are not too transparent 
> about the actual mechanisms of getting on or off the lists.
> 
> I would advise that any listing service that does not clearly document 
> inclusion criteria should not be trusted.
> 
> I slant in the direction that inclusion criteria should be as simple as 
> possible, but even complex ones should be documented to whatever detail 
> feasible and available to the general public.
> 
> Just as a random example, here is my inclusion criteria document ― short and 
> sweet ― for my known spam sources list: 
> https://www.bsdly.net/~peter/traplist_ethics.shtml 
> <https://www.bsdly.net/~peter/traplist_ethics.shtml>. In addition, my system 
> generates a few other blacklists, summarized in this blog post: 
> https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2018/08/badness-enumerated-by-robots.html 
> <https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2018/08/badness-enumerated-by-robots.html>
> 
> I hope this is vaguely useful to one or more somebodies out there.
> 
> All the best,
> Peter
> 
> ―
> Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
> http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
> "Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
> delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
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