----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris" <clewis+mai...@mustelids.ca> > To: "Lyndon Nerenberg" <lyn...@orthanc.ca>, "jra" <j...@baylink.com> > Cc: "Chris" <clewis+mai...@mustelids.ca>, mailop@mailop.org
> On 2020-12-20 14:00, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >>> The original quote, IIRC, was talking about Henry Spencer at UT Zoology, who >>> got Usenet that way for a while. >> >> More likely it was in relation to Australia's Usenet "feed" which was a daily >> FedEx air shipment of 9-track tapes. At the time, FedEx Air was cheaper than >> the very expensive submarine cable link. > > There is some confusion here. Lyndon is correct as for Australia. Jay > has it backwards. Ah: he *sent* Usenet out that way. Got it. FWIW, Andy Tanenbaum got back to me before I could rig in my antenna, and tells me that his quote wasn't conditioned on any particular situation. Jay regrets the error. > The Australia link was what I was referring to. Which was connected > with NASA, and I believe Eugene Miya was involved. > > That's what the quote was referring to, and may have even been from Tom > - he is that sort. However: > > Henry (who I was in CompSci with at UofT and knew him quite well) > received Usenet via dialup modem at node utzoo, and spread it outwards > from there. The sites I ran got it from utzoo. After a couple of > years, I returned the favour and my site (mnetor - Computer X > (subsidiary of Motorola) became the long haul link into Canada (via X.25 > UUCP d protocol from Rick Adams' side at seismo), and I fed utzoo, BNR, > LSUC, York et. al. > > [I then ended up in BNR, which for a while was one of the largest Usenet > transit sites in the world.] > > Tom's connection with magtapes vis-a-vis Usenet that Jay is referring to > is the *archive* of the Usenet traffic that Henry kept on tape, and gave > to Dejanews. I dunno; I got mine -- thanks to Spaf, then at GATech -- over a 1200bps modem from USF. :-) Henry's was, I think, the biggest contribution to DejaGoo, but there were, IIRC, hundreds, and at least a few of them (possibly including utzoo's) were conditioned on Google's (not really fulfilled) promise to aggregate it *and make all of it available in a useful form*. It's been 30 or 35 years, the possibility I'm misremembering some of it does exist. But I have a bit set -- and it's a pretty large bit -- that Google promised some stuff that they never delivered, and people depended on it. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274 _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop