Hi All,

Appreciate the discussion. As was mentioned in another forum we are aware
of the problem—the entire time is engaged in deploying a comprehensive fix
that will prevent a wave like this in the future. Just to be perfectly
clear, there is no leak of credentials as one post suggests. In the mean
time if you want to send example/headers to ab...@sendgrid.com they are
being reviewed, you can CC me too. We will play some whackamole as we look
to implement a more thorough solution. Again, thank you all for your
vigilance and feel free to ping me.

All best,
-L

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 14:00:35 +0100
From: Tim Bray <t...@kooky.org>
To: mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing
Message-ID: <1f6aca35-94ef-70a0-bd75-49a5d632d...@kooky.org>
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Hi,

Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid?  They look
fairly convincing.

A few paypals, and a few amazons.

I thought sendgrid were ok?    Has somebody leaked a big pile of
sendgrid usernames and passwords or something?


--
Tim Bray
Huddersfield, GB
t...@kooky.org




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 13:26:52 +0000
From: Faisal Misle <m...@faisal.ec>
To: mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing
Message-ID:

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I’ve been seeing it too... Mailgun, PayPal, etc

A SG rep replied to a SDLU thread yesterday about the same issue

“We are working to get a handle on this on a few fronts. These senders in
this thread have been banned. I don't have insight into the compliance
side, but it is being worked on."

Best,
Faisal

PGP Key: [C8FD029B](
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 )

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 8:00 AM, Tim Bray via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid? They look
> fairly convincing.
>
> A few paypals, and a few amazons.
>
> I thought sendgrid were ok? Has somebody leaked a big pile of
> sendgrid usernames and passwords or something?
>
> --
> Tim Bray
> Huddersfield, GB
> t...@kooky.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> mailop mailing list
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 15:42:21 +0200
From: Olivier Depuydt <olivier.depu...@cheetahdigital.com>
To: Faisal Misle <m...@faisal.ec>
Cc: mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: Re: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing
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Hello.

I received the Phishing email from the fake Paypal Support, from Sendgrid's
platform on May the 29th, on a personal email address.
I have forwarded it to Paypal's phishing support on June the 1srt.
So, this issue has weeks if you still see emails like that.

Best regards,

Olivier
Deliverability Engineer at Cheetah Digital

Le mer. 17 juin 2020 à 15:32, Faisal Misle via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> a
écrit :

> I’ve been seeing it too... Mailgun, PayPal, etc
>
> A SG rep replied to a SDLU thread yesterday about the same issue
>
> “We are working to get a handle on this on a few fronts. These senders in
> this thread have been banned. I don't have insight into the compliance
> side, but it is being worked on."
>
> Best,
> Faisal
>
> PGP Key: C8FD029B <
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://pgp.faisal.ec/__;!!NCc8flgU!LCEEi7RfsCuEjrw27F8pRz20vWUwhLqE6Acf7Hdq_1y72yJGxisirzN0Dvo$
 >
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 8:00 AM, Tim Bray via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid?  They look
> fairly convincing.
>
> A few paypals, and a few amazons.
>
> I thought sendgrid were ok?    Has somebody leaked a big pile of
> sendgrid usernames and passwords or something?
>
>
> --
> Tim Bray
> Huddersfield, GB
> t...@kooky.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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--

Olivier Depuydt

Site Reliability Engineer


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 06:45:30 -0700
From: Michael Peddemors <mich...@linuxmagic.com>
To: mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: [mailop] Sendgrid and phishing
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Going on two months since first reported, and last weekend was really
high counts of new Send Grid IP(s) sending obvious phishing..



On 2020-06-17 6:26 a.m., Faisal Misle via mailop wrote:
> I’ve been seeing it too... Mailgun, PayPal, etc
>
> A SG rep replied to a SDLU thread yesterday about the same issue
>
> “We are working to get a handle on this on a few fronts. These senders in
> this thread have been banned. I don't have insight into the compliance
> side, but it is being worked on."
>
> Best,
> Faisal
>
> PGP Key: C8FD029B <
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://pgp.faisal.ec/__;!!NCc8flgU!LCEEi7RfsCuEjrw27F8pRz20vWUwhLqE6Acf7Hdq_1y72yJGxisirzN0Dvo$
 >
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 8:00 AM, Tim Bray via mailop <mailop@mailop.org
> <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Anybody else seeing increase phishing through sendgrid?  They look
>> fairly convincing.
>>
>> A few paypals, and a few amazons.
>>
>> I thought sendgrid were ok?    Has somebody leaked a big pile of
>> sendgrid usernames and passwords or something?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim Bray
>> Huddersfield, GB
>> t...@kooky.org
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> mailop mailing list
>> mailop@mailop.org
>>
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