David,

> the question in my mind is whether it would be worth using a unique DKIM 
> identifier for every single customer of ours to track all of their reputation 
> separately
> 

Alternatively, are you using a unique customer identifier as one of the fields 
of Infusionsoft’s Feedback-ID header? Would that give you the level of 
visibility you need?

Paul Kincaid-Smith
EmailGrades

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 22:13, Paul Kincaid-Smith <p...@emailgrades.com> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> I had a conversation with the product manager responsible for Google 
> Postmaster Tools some time ago, and he said that they had deliberately chosen 
> a URL structure for GPT’s UI to make it easier for us to construct a scraper. 
> He encouraged scraping as an alternative to the long-hoped-for API. Good luck 
> with your project. Let us know how it progresses. 
> 
> Paul Kincaid-Smith
> EmailGrades
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2018, at 21:47, David Carriger <david.carri...@infusionsoft.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for the tips. We're currently doing double DKIM right now, the 
>> question in my mind is whether it would be worth using a unique DKIM 
>> identifier for every single customer of ours to track all of their 
>> reputation separately, and I wasn't sure whether GPT scales to thousands of 
>> domains in a single account or if they cut you off at some arbitrary number 
>> like, say, 500.
>> 
>> I will be at M3AAWG this year and was definitely planning on attending the 
>> GPT discussions. Just wanted to make sure our GPT account wasn't going to be 
>> shutdown if I started scraping the data off of it.
>> 
>> From: Benjamin BILLON <bbil...@splio.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:43:16 PM
>> To: Ryan Harris; mailop@mailop.org
>> Cc: David Carriger
>> Subject: RE: [mailop] Best practices for Google Postmaster Tools?
>>  
>> Hey Ryan,
>>  
>> I recall that when the errors happened at the end of last year 
>> (https://www.mail-archive.com/mailop@mailop.org/msg05260.html) I thought to 
>> myself how the heck of a job that would be to clean the mess for people who 
>> are scrapping the data.
>> That, and the not-so-huge need of doing it decreased the priority (and 
>> increased the innocent hope of the API) on my side.
>>  
>> --
>> Benjamin
>>  
>>  
>> De : Ryan Harris [mailto:r...@sendgrid.com] 
>> Envoyé : vendredi 9 février 2018 12:12
>> À : Benjamin BILLON <bbil...@splio.com>
>> Cc : David Carriger <david.carri...@infusionsoft.com>; mailop@mailop.org
>> Objet : Re: [mailop] Best practices for Google Postmaster Tools?
>>  
>> Hello, 
>> > 1) Is there an upper limit on how many authenticated domains can be added 
>> > for tracking?
>> 
>> I have 160+ domains and didn't hit a limit so far
>> 
>> Consider also applying dual dkim. It can be helpful to see all of your IPs 
>> reputation under a single, or handful of domains. 
>>  
>> > 2) Does anyone know if an API is planned/in the works for GPT?
>> 
>> Yes
>> 
>> https://wordtothewise.com/2017/10/tell-us-use-gmail-postmaster-tools/
>> 
>> https://wordtothewise.com/2017/10/google-postmaster-tools-last-chance/
>> 
>> https://wordtothewise.com/2017/11/gmail-survey-rough-analysis/
>> 
>> no ETA, we tried to make some noise to raise priority, and hope to get some 
>> news in the coming weeks, but no guarantee
>> 
>> Every year it sounds like an API is "just around the quarter." At this point 
>> I think it's a story in a backlog that wont see the light of day for a long 
>> time. 
>> 3) Given the current lack of an API, does Google frown on scraping data from 
>> GPT?
>> 
>> Some big ESPs do it. They still seem alive today.
>> 
>> > We'd like to make more use of it, but the support around it is sparse 
>> > right now, and the information I've been able to find on how other ESPs 
>> > are implementing the data is also quite limited.
>> 
>> You might want to consider joining M3AAWG
>> 
>> Scraping is doable and allowed (I assume so long as you don't hammer away at 
>> their site), but it's scraping and can be painful at times. How senders  are 
>> using postmaster.google.com data is a discussion that frequently happens at 
>> MAAWG.
>>  
>>  
>> Ryan
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