Note that information about Google is about 3 years out of date, we no
longer fall back to unencrypted.

Your best bet for important domains you care about it to try and contact
their admins to fix it.

Other than that, it's basically up to your policies what to do... well, and
what your software can do.

For us, the numbers were small enough to not be worth potentially sending
the mail in the clear.

Brandon

On Jan 23, 2017 10:21 AM, "Stefano Bagnara" <mai...@bago.org> wrote:

> We recently enabled starttls to every destination (announcing the starttls
> extension).
>
> We now see a lot of "454 4.3.3 TLS not available due to temporary reason"
> in reply to the STARTTLS by a big B2B italian provider named Aruba. We
> usually are able to send the email after 2-3-5 attempts, so this is not
> causing "failures" but mainly delay, but randomness could even cause
> permanent failures.
>
> Now, I read a forum where someone said Google try TLS delivery for 1 day,
> then they switch to plain text delivery if the delivery didn't happen in
> the first 24 hours.
>
> What do other senders do? Is this "try TLS for a while then switch to
> plain text" a best practice or just something "invented" by Google? Or do
> you use whitelist/blacklist in order to decide valid TLS destinations?
>
> I also have similar messages by other targets, but thet are very low
> volume, so I didn't investigate them:
> - 454 4.7.0 TLS not available due to local problem
> - 454 4.3.0 TLS not available due to local problem
> - 454 TLS currently unavailable
> - 454 TLS missing certificate: error:02001002:system library:fopen:No such
> file or directory (#4.3.0) )
>
> Stefano
>
> PS: this is my first post and www mailop org is not working right now so
> I've not been able to check the "posting guidelines" to see if this kind of
> message is allowed or not in this list.
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