On 17-01-05 05:21 PM, John Leslie wrote:
How to get that information back to the responsible party, as of
today, remains unsolved. But to the casual observer, blocklist
operators don't seem to be trying at all. They don't notify the
blocklisted server at all, in most cases, and if there _is_ any way
to retrieve information about why the listing happened, it's
proprietary.
and what do *YOU* perceive as "punishment"...
Actually, any blocklisting without the least attempt to report
why the listing happened _looks_like_ "punishment" -- even when the
"punishment" is extremely unlikely to change the misbehavior.
and I will answer why we can/cannot implement such policies/changes...
Why you _currently_ can't implement them isn't terribly helpful.
Instead, could you try to say what you would need in order to
implement them?
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John Leslie <j...@jlc.net>
Probably simply 'money', spammers make a lot more money that RBL
operators, maybe when various CAN-SPAM organizations fine spammers,
maybe they can spread the wealth to the RBL operators, and they can
spend the money to become the 'reporting police'.. but seriously, it
shouldn't be the job of RBL operators to let network operators know they
have a problem, the network operators that do spend the money to monitor
their own networks and email servers usually seldom end up on RBL lists,
and/or can get off quickly in the case they missed something..
But asking small shops, often who are providing the service for little
or no reward, to bear the cost of monitoring other peoples networks
seems unrealistic.
I don't know how often I hear, 'We don't monitor our networks/customers,
because otherwise we might be deemed responsible for the activity'
But getting off topic now..
But maybe instead of being critical, we should take time to thank those
people who take the time out to provide that service, an obviously
thankless job..
I think we all can agree that there are more network operators not doing
their job (egress spam) than problem RBL operators.
Ps, how quickly should this operator expect to be removed from an RBL..
104.168.151.9 6 if1.perfecthealthadvice.com
104.168.151.10 7 host-10.thedesiredhealth.net
104.168.151.11 6 static-11.loveandhealthiness.net
104.168.151.14 56 smtp.naturalhealthsaver.net
104.168.151.15 48 manicmarketer.com
104.168.151.17 53 mxst11.health-galleria.com
104.168.151.18 57 manicmarketer.com
104.168.151.19 54 abts.thedesiredhealth.net
104.168.151.20 45 tgn.loveandhealthiness.net
104.168.151.43 45 deadbeatmarketer.com
104.168.151.44 49 deadbeatmarketer.com
104.168.151.46 47 deadbeatmarketer.com
104.168.151.47 49 deadbeatmarketer.com
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