Agreed. We tried this in $OLD_JOB, but it didn’t last very long…

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Anthony Rodgers
Security Analyst
Michigan Security Operations Center (MiSOC)
DTMB, Michigan Cyber Security

From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of Franck Martin
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 14:41
To: tqr2813d376cjozqa...@tutanota.com
Cc: Brandon Long; mailop; John R Levine
Subject: Re: [mailop] EHLO/rDNS match



On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:34 PM, 
<tqr2813d376cjozqa...@tutanota.com<mailto:tqr2813d376cjozqa...@tutanota.com>> 
wrote:
7. Jul 2015 00:22 by jo...@taugh.com<mailto:jo...@taugh.com>:
-all only means something if it's by itself, ie as used to say a domain
never sends email.

The SPF crowd would claim otherwise, that -all means reject the message with or 
without other stuff, but I agree that in practice you can't do that other than 
for plain -all meaning we send no mail.



If bigger carriers like Google or Yahoo suddenly started sending perm/temp 
errors where appropriate for validation errors (too many DNS lookups, malformed 
record, etc), -all, and others it might kick enough people in the rear that the 
practice then becomes OK. Or so I would hope. :)

When you do such things, you have t figure out how many "legitimate" messages 
you will be blocking. You will then have to figure out, which helpdesk is going 
to explode, the sender one, or the receiver one?
Considering many people don't look at their logs nor understand bounce messages 
(they are ghastly). There is very very little incentive for a receiver to 
enforce to the letter the RFCs.
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