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Respectfully,
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On 26 Feb 2024, at 9:51, Pierre Igot wrote:
For those of you who are affected by this issue, if you use
MailMate’s built-in colour feature to colour mailboxes and their
contents, there is actually a hidden preference in MailMate that
switches from the default scheme for selected/highlighted messages in
the message list to a scheme where the background colour used for
highlighting selected messages, instead of the being the default
accent colour for MM, is the colour of the selected message, and the
text of the selected message is inverted (to white):
defaults write com.freron.MailMate
MmMessagesOutlineViewColorInversionEnabled -bool YES
(Probably requires a relaunch.)
Benny has kindly provided me with this information (the feature has
yet to be documented) and noted that it has actually been supported
for some time.
I must say it’s a big relief to me that this hidden preference is
available, because it gives us much more flexibility in the choice of
colours for messages, since selecting messages no longer risks making
them hard to read in the message list.
Hope this is useful to other people.
Pierre
To those who kindly added their voice to this discussion, I also
invite you to add to the ticket that I opened about it a while back:
https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/3296-regression-text-color-not-inverting-when-selecting-an-item#ticket-3296-2
I have yet to see a response.
Thanks.
Pierre
On 31 Jan 2024, at 8:54, Pierre Igot wrote:
Just want to confirm that the new system for coloring messages works
just as well as the old styles.plist-based one. In fact, in some
respects it has more flexibility and works better.
HOWEVER, there is one glaring issue that remains unaddressed in
recent builds: when a coloured message is selected in a list, the
selection highlighting colour is your default “accent” colour
(typically dark blue), but MailMate does not INVERT the coloured
text to white to make it readable over the dark blue background. The
result is that, if the text colour for the message in the list
happens to be a fairly dark colour, it becomes pretty much
unreadable when highlighted. The only dark-coloured messages that
remain readable when selected are those that are in BLACK. If the
text colour of the message is black, then MM inverts it to white
when selected. For all other colours, there’s no inversion. Only
lighter text colours remain (somewhat) readable over a dark blue
background when selected.
I have send an extensive post directly to Benny about this, with
supporting screen shots, explaining why I strongly believe that he
should bring back inversion for coloured messages as well, i.e.
ignore the default accent colour and use THE MESSAGE’S TEXT COLOUR
as background for the highlighting and invert the text itself to
white. This used to be the case in order builds of MM. Then at some
point Benny reversed his decision and went back to using the default
accent colour for highlighting in the message list, regardless of
the text colour of the highlighted message, with no inversion of the
text to white in order to make is readable.
I would really like that all those other MM users who use text
colouring (either in an older build via the hidden Styles.plist
feature or in more recent builds with the new smart-mailbox-based
feature) indicate here how they feel about this defective text
inversion scheme that makes it coloured messages hard to read when
selected/highlighted. It might be a bit “slicker” and
“cleaner” to have the same accent colour for selection
highlighting everywhere in the message list, but it is at the
expense of readability and usability. I’d rather have a mishmash
of different selection highlighting colours based on the underlying
colours of the selected messages, with proper inversion of the text
to white. I find the lack of readability of non-inverted darker text
over a dark selection highlighting colour background much less
“clean” and very inelegant and user-hostile.
At the very least, Benny could bring back text inversion for
selected messages using their own colour as the selection
highlighting colour as an OPTION for those who use text colouring
— which is now, after all, a fully supported (no longer hidden)
feature in the MM user interface.
Anyone else agree?
Thanks.
Pierre
On 31 Jan 2024, at 2:41, Sven Klages wrote:
Thank you Bill & Eric!
Sounds good, I will give it a try :-)
-Sven
Am 30.01.24 um 23:58 schrieb Eric Sharakan via mailmate:
On 30 Jan 2024, at 17:33, Bill Cole wrote:
On 2024-01-30 at 14:32:34 UTC-0500 (Tue, 30 Jan 2024 20:32:34
+0100)
Sven Klages <[email protected]>
is rumored to have said:
[...]
When using smart mailboxes as proposed in the comments of your
bug report, I do have one type/color per smart folder, that’s
not the same … did I get it right?
Yes, but I think that you are missing the fact that you can
create a smart mailbox aggregating the messages of other
(colored-message) smart mailboxes. The messages keep the color
assigned by the parent mailbox.
Right, all you need to do is create smart mailboxes containing the
conditions you want for coloring the messages. Then, use the
Mailbox->Color submenu to choose a color for that mailbox, and
also select "Use Color in Message List". Your chosen color will be
applied not only to the messages in your smart mailbox, but also
to the original messages, wherever they reside.
It's totally flexible and has been working great for me.
-Eric
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