I Fully grok your mindset here. I had the same.

Thank you. It is important for me to know, that there are other users
who like the suggested feature too.

I did jump to mailmate in the end though since mailmate is so much better
in almost any other aspect than Thunderbird.

And to be clear you do not need to use any modifiers to go to next unread.
I have 'n' as my next unread.

Yes, but with that command you are stucked in the mailbox, where you
are at the moment.

To get to the next unread in the next mailbox you need another
command.

Yes, and that’s why I compromised it so that I simply have to push shift+n when I want to move further. You could make it so 'b' moved to next so you only need to move your finger one slot to the left :)

I would love for Benny to add a nextunreadornextcountedfolder command but I
would encourage you to try mailmate out even before that happens :)

: ) That's what I'm doing right now.

Would you (or others) who are experienced with Thunderbird like to
help me to explore in which aspects MM is superior to TB?

Here are my on top of my head features:

scalability: with mail mate I'm now at 1.000.000+ messages something I never got near with thunderbird - I stopped using thunderbird the 3rd time I had it corrupts its own database and then spent days downloading all messages again.

bundles: I use a bunch of the bundles built in but also written a few internal processes, like take expense emails through a filter which then generates content in my clipboard I can then put into a spreadsheet ;)

markdown for email: nuff'said ?

integration with spotlight on osx: not sure if thunderbird does this by now but i use it often now with mailmate (its in many cases faster than mail mate to do focused search)

smart mailboxes: I do not know of any other mail app which can handled smart mailboxes as well as mail mate.


Independent of that:
Are anyone of you uses the filter type/language SIEVE and declares the
rules inside MM?

MM doesn't support editing SIEVE rules. It does have integration support with spamsieve.

That said I uses neither as I don't want my desktop client to do the bulk filtering as it is not always running thus my mails gets cluttered when just on phone.

I use imapfilter and have a fairly complex implementation which I some day will try and
make possible to share..some day ;)

That said mailmates filtering rules are very good and if I just used my desktop for mails or it was always on I would be fine with mail mates filters.

/max


Best
Andreas





On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 09:26, Andreas Borutta <boru...@gmx.de> wrote:

Travis Risner via mailmate:

I have found that if I choose the general/universal inbox, I can then
option-command down arrow to move to the next unread message.  Yes,
pressing it again will go to the next unread message rather than paging down, but I consider this an advantage. It lets me skip from a short or
boring message directly to the next.

I like and use the optional command "Jump to the beginning of the next
unread message" too. For the same reason like you: when a message is
boring.
But my highest priority of all functions of a mail client is indeed
the single read key. Just because I use it thousand of times.

That's as well the reason that for such a command I regard only a
keyboard shortcut as acceptable which uses one key and not
additionally a meta key or arrow key.

Further I prefer it not use "one big mailbox for all messages". So I
need the single read key working in the normal mailboxes.

In other words:
When the command stops at the last unread message in one Mailbox and
forces the user to manually switch to the next mailbox (with a special
keyboard shortcut), it does not work for me.

I really do not stop using "one single key for reading".

I tried to find where this is documented but I didn't see it in MM help,
the MM manual, in MM preferences, system preferences, or in the
"defaults" settings. Since I don't know where this is set (or how I got
it to work), it may not work for you.

BTW, Thunderbird allows one to transfer an email to a local folder. MM does not. Thus just looking through the MM inbox gets to all unread messages available to MM. (I use both programs just so I can transfer emails to local folders. Other than that, I consider MM superior to
Thunderbird.)

My impression of MM is very good too. I bought the license 2 years
ago. But as long as I can't realize a single read key I cannot switch
from  Thunderbird to MM.

Yes, local folders are a nice concept of TB. But it has not the same
rank for me as such usability features as "single read key".

But I'm patient :)
May be Benny likes my suggestion.


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