> Since I rarely use the feature myself then I don't have a lot of > experience with it, but wouldn't it work (to some extent) with [Power > Nap](http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5394) enabled? >
Not sure, I should test this, I do have a model that supports the Power Nap. From the list of things it does sound a bit like only software made by Apple is active using this feature, I’m not sure how they are opening up this functionality to other apps? Are they? > > > Implementation with a server-side component would be ideal, but I?m > > not sure how feasible that would be. > > > I'm pretty sure I read about a server-side solution at some point (maybe > only a theoretical one), but I cannot seem to find that right now (my > brain tells me it was an SMTP extension, but my brain is never to be > trusted). > > ...googling one more time, because I'm stubborn... > > I found it! Here is an [SMTP > extension](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4865) named ?SMTP Submission > Service Extension for Future Message Release?. > > The bad news is that I do not know or have access to any SMTP servers > with support for this extension. That does sound interesting, but like you say, needs to be testable somewhere. This is something that I would have hoped made it into the standards already, since there are all kinds of services popping up (like boomerang for gmail) that handle these situations. But resolving it server-side by the actual mail server sounds much more elegant than some in-between solution. Oh well. > > On another note, I have an always turned on mac mini as a server, I > > could install mailmate there and use screen sharing to send it from > > there. That would be a hacky workaround, am I overseeing something > > obvious or is that the way to go? > > > Well, if you do that then you don't really need ?Send Later? in > MailMate. You need a reminder app to tell you when to send the message. Well, for some cases that could work. But for some emails I like to send them early in the morning so that it appears as one of the first new e-mails in the inbox when they open their email. However getting up early and doing that is less attractive. Or when working late and not wanting to send emails in the middle of the night, I’m not sure if that’s actually frowned upon, but in that case setting it to early morning and not having to deal with it would be great. > The only thing I can improve is that one instance of MailMate should be > able to send a message scheduled by another instance of MailMate, but > this is a tricky problem. Naively implemented, it would lead to the > message being sent twice if both machines are online... Well in my case the one instance is always online, so if I can just offload it to that, that’d be great actually. I’m thinking the same could somehow be accomplished with bundles and some apple scripting, or some fudging around with the calendar and invoking scripts. But probably you have a less hacky idea. On Friday 29 November 2013 at 18:00, mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com wrote: > Send mailmate mailing list submissions to > mailmate@lists.freron.com (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com) > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com (mailto:mailmate-requ...@lists.freron.com) > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mailmate-ow...@lists.freron.com (mailto:mailmate-ow...@lists.freron.com) > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of mailmate digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. send later (Joris Hoogeboom) > 2. Re: Reply to selection of text (Jacques) > 3. Re: Reply to selection of text (Jacques) > 4. Re: Reply to selection of text (A.J. Colianni) > 5. Re: send later (Benny Kj?r Nielsen) > 6. Re: Reply to selection of text (Benny Kj?r Nielsen) > 7. Re: Reply to selection of text (Benny Kj?r Nielsen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 18:06:25 +0100 > From: Joris Hoogeboom <jorishoogeb...@gmail.com > (mailto:jorishoogeb...@gmail.com)> > To: mailmate@lists.freron.com (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com) > Subject: [MlMt] send later > Message-ID: <etPan.52977811.49c9de76.1b0@Joriss-MacBook-Pro.local > (mailto:etPan.52977811.49c9de76.1b0@Joriss-MacBook-Pro.local)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > As far as I understand the send later feature is done locally, meaning that > if the machine is turned off it doesn?t work. > > Is there any way to make this more robust? I can?t leave my laptop on all the > time worrying there might be some message scheduled. > > Implementation with a server-side component would be ideal, but I?m not sure > how feasible that would be. > > On another note, I have an always turned on mac mini as a server, I could > install mailmate there and use screen sharing to send it from there. That > would be a hacky workaround, am I overseeing something obvious or is that the > way to go? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.freron.com/pipermail/mailmate/attachments/20131128/f5e91e56/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 10:41:14 -0700 > From: Jacques <jak...@gmail.com (mailto:jak...@gmail.com)> > To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate@lists.freron.com > (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com)> > Subject: Re: [MlMt] Reply to selection of text > Message-ID: <12cfbfb0-a882-4257-917c-1a8858291...@gmail.com > (mailto:12cfbfb0-a882-4257-917c-1a8858291...@gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 28 Nov 2013, at 2:48, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote: > > > On 28 Nov 2013, at 1:09, Jacques wrote: > > > > > There were two paragraphs, a list of a few things denoted by the > > > number with a ) symbol afterwards then one more paragraph. Oddly, > > > some of it interpreted to MM as indenting to a separate thread. > > > > > > Do you need me to forward you the email to take a look to see why it > > > interpreted this way? > > > > > > > > > Did you see my other message in this thread about a new test version: > > Hold down ? when clicking ?Check Now? in the Software Update > > preferences pane (r3866). > > > > I've changed how a selection is converted to plain text (Markdown). If > > it still does not work well for you then send me an example message > > off-list. > > > > > Yes. I found a glitch, too. If you don't select any text replies are > just blank. When I went to toggle in Composer preferences to turn Reply > to text selection only and the put it BACK, it now grabs the whole > message if nothing is selected. So that fixed it.. > > As far as the example, I'll send it to you soon. > > thanks, happy turkey from USA Benny =) > > - > Jacques > via Mac > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 10:48:36 -0700 > From: Jacques <jak...@gmail.com (mailto:jak...@gmail.com)> > To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate@lists.freron.com > (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com)> > Subject: Re: [MlMt] Reply to selection of text > Message-ID: <b3c5b7c0-b6c4-4790-a861-60f83c132...@gmail.com > (mailto:b3c5b7c0-b6c4-4790-a861-60f83c132...@gmail.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > On 28 Nov 2013, at 10:41, Jacques wrote: > > > Yes. I found a glitch, too. If you don't select any text replies are > > just blank. When I went to toggle in Composer preferences to turn > > Reply to text selection only and the put it BACK, it now grabs the > > whole message if nothing is selected. So that fixed it.. > > > > > Actually, the same glitch is still happening to other emails as I go > through my morning mail. > > Anyone else seeing this? > > - > Jacques > via Mac > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2013 12:15:45 -0600 > From: "A.J. Colianni" <a...@colianni.net (mailto:a...@colianni.net)> > To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate@lists.freron.com > (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com)> > Subject: Re: [MlMt] Reply to selection of text > Message-ID: <36c4b1b4-ee72-44e5-ace3-91fbdfa24...@colianni.net > (mailto:36c4b1b4-ee72-44e5-ace3-91fbdfa24...@colianni.net)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > On 28 Nov 2013, at 11:48, Jacques wrote: > > > Actually, the same glitch is still happening to other emails as I go > > through my morning mail. Anyone else seeing this? > > Yep, I'm seeing this behavior as well. I've figured out something: > > If the current selection is the *message in the message list*, and you make a > reply, it will select the entire message to quote. > > If the current selection is the message itself (one click in the message > area, the selection bar will be grey in the message list) you'll get a blank > reply. > > If you select some text in the message window, you'll get that text quoted in > your reply. > > Hope that helps and that I explained that clearly. > > Best wishes, > A.J. > > > -- > A.J. Colianni > a...@colianni.net (mailto:a...@colianni.net) > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 1575 bytes > Desc: OpenPGP digital signature > URL: > <http://lists.freron.com/pipermail/mailmate/attachments/20131128/5ba0dfb7/attachment-0001.pgp> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:17:23 +0100 > From: "Benny Kj?r Nielsen" <mailingl...@freron.com > (mailto:mailingl...@freron.com)> > To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate@lists.freron.com > (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com)> > Subject: Re: [MlMt] send later > Message-ID: <9bd934e2-ed49-487c-9b47-291973a36...@freron.com > (mailto:9bd934e2-ed49-487c-9b47-291973a36...@freron.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > On 28 Nov 2013, at 18:06, Joris Hoogeboom wrote: > > > As far as I understand the send later feature is done locally, meaning > > that if the machine is turned off it doesn?t work. > > > > > That is correct. > > > Is there any way to make this more robust? I can?t leave my laptop > > on all the time worrying there might be some message scheduled. > > > > > Since I rarely use the feature myself then I don't have a lot of > experience with it, but wouldn't it work (to some extent) with [Power > Nap](http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5394) enabled? > > > Implementation with a server-side component would be ideal, but I?m > > not sure how feasible that would be. > > > > > I'm pretty sure I read about a server-side solution at some point (maybe > only a theoretical one), but I cannot seem to find that right now (my > brain tells me it was an SMTP extension, but my brain is never to be > trusted). > > ...googling one more time, because I'm stubborn... > > I found it! Here is an [SMTP > extension](http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4865) named ?SMTP Submission > Service Extension for Future Message Release?. > > The bad news is that I do not know or have access to any SMTP servers > with support for this extension. > > > On another note, I have an always turned on mac mini as a server, I > > could install mailmate there and use screen sharing to send it from > > there. That would be a hacky workaround, am I overseeing something > > obvious or is that the way to go? > > > > > Well, if you do that then you don't really need ?Send Later? in > MailMate. You need a reminder app to tell you when to send the message. > > The only thing I can improve is that one instance of MailMate should be > able to send a message scheduled by another instance of MailMate, but > this is a tricky problem. Naively implemented, it would lead to the > message being sent twice if both machines are online... > > -- > Benny > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.freron.com/pipermail/mailmate/attachments/20131129/2e9d4093/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:30:24 +0100 > From: "Benny Kj?r Nielsen" <mailingl...@freron.com > (mailto:mailingl...@freron.com)> > To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate@lists.freron.com > (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com)> > Subject: Re: [MlMt] Reply to selection of text > Message-ID: <f9eccfc8-e1db-4dbd-85d8-1f59d34cb...@freron.com > (mailto:f9eccfc8-e1db-4dbd-85d8-1f59d34cb...@freron.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > On 28 Nov 2013, at 18:41, Jacques wrote: > > > > I've changed how a selection is converted to plain text (Markdown). > > > If it still does not work well for you then send me an example > > > message off-list. > > > > > > > > > Yes. I found a glitch, too. If you don't select any text replies are > > just blank. When I went to toggle in Composer preferences to turn > > Reply to text selection only and the put it BACK, it now grabs the > > whole message if nothing is selected. So that fixed it.. > > > > > Thanks for the feedback. I can reproduce the blank reply. I'll look into > it. (It appears to now be more buggy than ever. Sorry about that.) > > -- > Benny > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:28:09 +0100 > From: "Benny Kj?r Nielsen" <mailingl...@freron.com > (mailto:mailingl...@freron.com)> > To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate@lists.freron.com > (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com)> > Subject: Re: [MlMt] Reply to selection of text > Message-ID: <15e5ee5b-f30f-4bf8-bb52-6448cfea3...@freron.com > (mailto:15e5ee5b-f30f-4bf8-bb52-6448cfea3...@freron.com)> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 29 Nov 2013, at 11:30, Benny Kj?r Nielsen wrote: > > > On 28 Nov 2013, at 18:41, Jacques wrote: > > > > > Yes. I found a glitch, too. If you don't select any text replies are > > > just blank. When I went to toggle in Composer preferences to turn > > > Reply to text selection only and the put it BACK, it now grabs the > > > whole message if nothing is selected. So that fixed it.. > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback. I can reproduce the blank reply. I'll look > > into it. (It appears to now be more buggy than ever. Sorry about > > that.) > > > > > The latest test version should be slightly better (no blank replies). > > -- > Benny > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > mailmate mailing list > mailmate@lists.freron.com (mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com) > http://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate > > > End of mailmate Digest, Vol 32, Issue 46 > **************************************** > >
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