Steve Brown writes:

 > Yes, I intended to post to the list.  I now see that if I use the
 > archives to post (as I'm doing now),

As Mark said, you posted via Gmail (first Received header plus lots of
GoogleMail internal data).

 > I don't see any apple iCloud,

Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail users mostly use the webmail of the provider so
their address is a very good clue to the capabilities of their MUAs,
but Apple Mail is an app on the iPhone or Mac.  You'd have to look at
the content of the mail (sometimes there's a User-Agent header, or
iPhones often have "sent from my iPhone" as a footer) to know that
someone is using Apple Mail, just as you'd need to do a bit of header
spelunking to find out that I use the VM application on XEmacs on Mac.
I know a fair number of Gmail users who use Apple Mail on Mac rather
than Google's webmail, and a very few who have Outlook addresses.
Your academic users very likely include a high percentage of Apple
Mail users.

"Wrap" is known to have been problematic with iPhones, unclear about
Apple Mail on Mac (but it's a good bet given Apple's penchant for
reusing Mac code on iOS).  Since "Munge From" is now the industry
standard for dealing with sites that use DMARC reject policies, it
wasn't worth it to check if Apple Mail improved over time.

 > so I suspect that using the archive for search or posting would
 > also seem like a PITA.

Sure.  We have to acknowledge that all of these suggestions are just
workarounds for a fundamental issue with current email MUAs
(specifically, defaulting to unsigned mail and depending on providers
to authenticate).

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Software systems consulting in Europe, North America, and Japan
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