Thank you Althaf and Sebin for your valuable points. ! You people made some sense here :)
Being a Free Software Evangelist doesn't call for strong Orthodox views i guess!! And the 'spy' issue, lets drop it here rather inflate it to be the next stupid issue in the list.. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:49 PM, <[email protected]>wrote: > Send Mailinglist mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mailinglist digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Libre (Siju George) > 2. Re: Libre (Althaf) > 3. Re: Libre (Fayaz useful) > 4. Re: Libre (Sebin Jacob) > 5. Re: Libre (Anoop Alias) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:04:38 +0530 > From: Siju George <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Libre > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Anoop Alias <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > @the_original_author > > > > Do they really have paid spy's at ilug-kochi . > > > > If yes that would be ubercool :) > > > > hahaha! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:08:14 +0530 > From: Althaf <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Libre > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Let me put it this way. > > +Libre means freedom and none can stop you from free speech, let it be in > here or in any event, however look it this way in a "mnc" you are obliged > to > follow a dress code, now does that violate your freedom for dress choice?, > well no, when you are in a system we have to follow and respect its rules. > > +What is wrong with a proi..try software? if that meets customer needs, > let > them use it.However, us being FOSS user and evangelist we ought create > awareness among people about foss movement, not about propi..try > alternatives. > > +As i understand, we dont poke the eyes of prop..try companies, rather we > create awaress when they play clever, like the DRM issues! (iphone and > bluetooth?) > > - > Althaf K Backer > gt-i5503 > > On 20 Sep 2010 18:57, "Anoop Alias" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > @the_original_author > > Do they really have paid spy's at ilug-kochi . > > If yes that would be ubercool :) > > > -- > Anoop P Alias (PGP Key ID : 0x014F9953) > GNU system administrator > http://GnuSys.net > > _______________________________________________ > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > #[email protected] > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/attachments/20100920/5b7c2419/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:19:01 +0530 > From: Fayaz useful <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Libre > Message-ID: > > <[email protected]<aanlktingmy6oyxmubhhrj8%[email protected]> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > +1 > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 20:08, Althaf <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Let me put it this way. > > > > +Libre means freedom and none can stop you from free speech, let it be in > > here or in any event, however look it this way in a "mnc" you are obliged > to > > follow a dress code, now does that violate your freedom for dress > choice?, > > well no, when you are in a system we have to follow and respect its > rules. > > > > +What is wrong with a proi..try software? if that meets customer needs, > > let them use it.However, us being FOSS user and evangelist we ought > create > > awareness among people about foss movement, not about propi..try > > alternatives. > > > > +As i understand, we dont poke the eyes of prop..try companies, rather we > > create awaress when they play clever, like the DRM issues! (iphone and > > bluetooth?) > > > > - > > Althaf K Backer > > gt-i5503 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > > #[email protected] > > > > > > -- > Fayaz Yusuf Khan > B.Tech. Computer Science & Engineering(2007-2011) > Model Engineering College, Kochi, Kerala, India > +91-9746-830-823 > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/attachments/20100920/8f2156cd/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:22:37 +0530 > From: Sebin Jacob <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Libre > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I suppose, it is because of the politics involved in making software free, > that many of us started using them and not just because of the superiority > over any other system. That put aside, we love the ecosystem and we started > experimenting with stuff that at last proved for us beyond doubt that, this > is far more superior than proprietary counter stuff. > > I started as a windows user for sure. I then started installing Free > software inside windows. Next I tried out some distro and was not able to > run it by my self. So was stuck in windows for long. Still I was able to > use > many a free software programs to my satisfaction even inside windows. > > But the quest to migrate to Gnu/Linux continued. That ended up in continous > distro hopping and now I am using only Arch linux in my Laptop without much > proprietary stuff. My father uses Chakra as his choice of distro. I have a > desktop too, which is used by my school going child and I have Ubuntu in it > right now. I am planning to replace it with FreeBSD though. These are all > choices. > > Somebody coming to an event of a Libre S/w user group and advocating for > the > use of proprietary stuff is silly. Without the politics behind it, will GPL > be ever evolved? > > gnu.org's list is just a recognition of being completely free. Can't > somebody maintain such a list? > > Open office is available in windows too. Does that make Open Office > proprietary? What is the rationale in calling someone hypocrite for such a > naive reason? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/attachments/20100920/dc593662/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 22:49:39 +0530 > From: Anoop Alias <[email protected]> > To: "This List discusses GNU/Linux & GNU, GPL Software" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-Cochin.org] Libre > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > +1 > > I doubt that the original author is a ms spy and he has come to poison our > delicate ecosystem. > > gnu has been subjected to corporate espionage for long . Most of the > mailing > lists and irc channels are penetrated by paid spys and there is even a > secret chamber inside MS where meetings are held once in a week to devise > measures for espionage. It is said they sacrifice a goat ( resembling > gnooh) > once in a year. > > I say we must create a anti-espionage team under ILUG-kochi and discuss > about this as this is a very serious issue. > > > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Sebin Jacob <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I suppose, it is because of the politics involved in making software > free, > > that many of us started using them and not just because of the > superiority > > over any other system. That put aside, we love the ecosystem and we > started > > experimenting with stuff that at last proved for us beyond doubt that, > this > > is far more superior than proprietary counter stuff. > > > > I started as a windows user for sure. I then started installing Free > > software inside windows. Next I tried out some distro and was not able to > > run it by my self. So was stuck in windows for long. Still I was able to > use > > many a free software programs to my satisfaction even inside windows. > > > > But the quest to migrate to Gnu/Linux continued. That ended up in > continous > > distro hopping and now I am using only Arch linux in my Laptop without > much > > proprietary stuff. My father uses Chakra as his choice of distro. I have > a > > desktop too, which is used by my school going child and I have Ubuntu in > it > > right now. I am planning to replace it with FreeBSD though. These are all > > choices. > > > > Somebody coming to an event of a Libre S/w user group and advocating for > > the use of proprietary stuff is silly. Without the politics behind it, > will > > GPL be ever evolved? > > > > gnu.org's list is just a recognition of being completely free. Can't > > somebody maintain such a list? > > > > Open office is available in windows too. Does that make Open Office > > proprietary? What is the rationale in calling someone hypocrite for such > a > > naive reason? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > > #[email protected] > > > > > > -- > Anoop P Alias (PGP Key ID : 0x014F9953) > GNU system administrator > http://GnuSys.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/pipermail/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org/attachments/20100920/01dac22c/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Indian Libre User Group Cochin Mailing List > http://www.ilug-cochin.org/mailing-list/ > http://mail.ilug-cochin.org/mailman/listinfo/mailinglist_ilug-cochin.org > #[email protected] > > End of Mailinglist Digest, Vol 87, Issue 34 > ******************************************* >
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