You make some good points and I'll file that away for future reference.
----- Original Message ----- From: Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 3:16 pm Subject: Re: Installing windows 7 home premium into vm fision from an iso > > > If you don't have speech, you are sort of stuck. VMWare can do some > configuration, but I installed it once and had to just press enter, and > another time it prompted for a whole bunch of settings. Both were Windows 7, > both on virtual machines. Once you are up and running, you can launch > Narrator and use that to get a real screen reader installed, though the > process is horribly tedious. I find it much simpler to just have a sighted > person click through everything, then grab NVDA from www.nvda-project.org and > install it. Once I have that, I'm all set, but up to that point it is much > easier and error-free to have sighted help. > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > On Feb 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, don bishop <w6...@donbishop.org> wrote: > > > Alex, > > I thought you could install windows itself without sighted help. Of > > course, you'd need help with installing speech unless you're familiar with > > the keystrokes to get your speech going. > > Isn't this how it works? Thinking of doing it here. > > Thanks, > > Don > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> > > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:41 pm > > Subject: Re: Installing windows 7 home premium into vm fision from an iso > > > >> > >> > >> You will need sighted help. Voiceover can handle installations of mac > >> operating systems or updates just fine, but creating a VM is essentially > >> installing Windows, albeit on a virtual disk instead of a physical one. > >> So, Voiceover cannot see anything Windows does because Windows is its own > >> operating system, and so you will not be able to get speech feedback > >> (thanks, Microsoft). > >> > >> -- > >> Have a great day, > >> Alex > >> mehg...@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> Wow that's really nice. Now with both of us being blind would we still > >>> need sighted assistance during the install process or would voiceover > >>> work to tell us what's going on during this installation? > >>> > >>> Take care, > >>> Shannon Gerdts > >>> > >>> From: Alex Hall > >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:07 PM > >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >>> Subject: Re: Installing windows 7 home premium into vm fision from an iso > >>> > >>> I did that recently, and it's really simple. You create a new VM, choose > >>> to install from existing file or CD, then navigate to the iso when you > >>> are prompted to open the location of the Windows install disk or file. > >>> Pressing enter launches the process, and Windows installs. That's all > >>> there is to it! > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Have a great day, > >>> Alex > >>> mehg...@gmail.com > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Feb 11, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello everyone, > >>>> Ok so I purchased a new macbook pro 13" for my wife's birthday. We're > >>>> now wanting to see about installing windows onto her macbook using > >>>> fusion since that will allow her to run windows and her mac OS side by > >>>> side so that she can switch between the two and run applications as > >>>> needed. However, I'm trying to do some searches for doing such a thing > >>>> since the newest macbook pros no longer come with an optical drive so > >>>> I'm not sure how to go about this task using an iso. > >>>> I did manage to get ahold of the windows 7 version I have in an iso > >>>> form but would love to get some feedback on how I go about using this > >>>> iso and installing it into fusion. > >>>> I want to thank all of you for any help on this matter ahead of time as > >>>> it will be tremendously appreciated from the both of us. > >>>> > >>>> Take care, > >>>> Shannon Gerdts > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> You will need sighted help. Voiceover can handle installations of mac > >> operating systems or updates just fine, but creating a VM is essentially > >> installing Windows, albeit on a virtual disk instead of a physical one. > >> So, Voiceover cannot see anything Windows does because Windows is its own > >> operating system, and so you will not be able to get speech feedback > >> (thanks, Microsoft). > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Have a great day, > >> Alex > >> mehg...@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello, > >> Wow that's really nice. Now with both of us being blind would we still > >> need sighted assistance during the install process or would voiceover work > >> to tell us what's going on during this installation? > >> > >> Take care, > >> Shannon Gerdts > >> > >> From: Alex Hall > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:07 PM > >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: Installing windows 7 home premium into vm fision from an iso > >> > >> I did that recently, and it's really simple. You create a new VM, choose > >> to install from existing file or CD, then navigate to the iso when you are > >> prompted to open the location of the Windows install disk or file. > >> Pressing enter launches the process, and Windows installs. That's all > >> there is to it! > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Have a great day, > >> Alex > >> mehg...@gmail.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 11, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello everyone, > >> Ok so I purchased a new macbook pro 13" for my wife's birthday. We're > >> now wanting to see about installing windows onto her macbook using fusion > >> since that will allow her to run windows and her mac OS side by side so > >> that she can switch between the two and run applications as needed. > >> However, I'm trying to do some searches for doing such a thing since the > >> newest macbook pros no longer come with an optical drive so I'm not sure > >> how to go about this task using an iso. > >> I did manage to get ahold of the windows 7 version I have in an iso form > >> but would love to get some feedback on how I go about using this iso and > >> installing it into fusion. > >> I want to thank all of you for any help on this matter ahead of time as > >> it will be tremendously appreciated from the both of us. > >> > >> Take care, > >> Shannon Gerdts > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > If you don't have speech, you are sort of stuck. VMWare can do some > configuration, but I installed it once and had to just press enter, and > another time it prompted for a whole bunch of settings. Both were Windows 7, > both on virtual machines. Once you are up and running, you can launch > Narrator and use that to get a real screen reader installed, though the > process is horribly tedious. I find it much simpler to just have a sighted > person click through everything, then grab NVDA from www.nvda-project.org and > install it. Once I have that, I'm all set, but up to that point it is much > easier and error-free to have sighted help. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, don bishop <w6...@donbishop.org> wrote: > > > Alex, > I thought you could install windows itself without sighted help. Of course, > you'd need help with installing speech unless you're familiar with the > keystrokes to get your speech going. > Isn't this how it works? Thinking of doing it here. > Thanks, > Don > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:41 pm > Subject: Re: Installing windows 7 home premium into vm fision from an iso > > > > > You will need sighted help.. Voiceover can handle installations of mac > operating systems or updates just fine, but creating a VM is essentially > installing Windows, albeit on a virtual disk instead of a physical one. So, > Voiceover cannot see anything Windows does because Windows is its own > operating system, and so you will not be able to get speech feedback (thanks, > Microsoft). > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > Wow that's really nice. Now with both of us being blind would we still > need sighted assistance during the install process or would voiceover work to > tell us what's going on during this installation? > > Take care, > Shannon Gerdts > > From: Alex Hall > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:07 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Installing windows 7 home premium into vm fision from an iso > > I did that recently, and it's really simple. You create a new VM, choose to > install from existing file or CD, then navigate to the iso when you are > prompted to open the location of the Windows install disk or file. Pressing > enter launches the process, and Windows installs. That's all there is to it! > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > On Feb 11, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > Ok so I purchased a new macbook pro 13" for my wife's birthday. We're now > wanting to see about installing windows onto her macbook using fusion since > that will allow her to run windows and her mac OS side by side so that she > can switch between the two and run applications as needed. However, I'm > trying to do some searches for doing such a thing since the newest macbook > pros no longer come with an optical drive so I'm not sure how to go about > this task using an iso. > I did manage to get ahold of the windows 7 version I have in an iso form but > would love to get some feedback on how I go about using this iso and > installing it into fusion. > I want to thank all of you for any help on this matter ahead of time as it > will be tremendously appreciated from the both of us. > > Take care, > Shannon Gerdts > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > You will need sighted help. Voiceover can handle installations of mac > operating systems or updates just fine, but creating a VM is essentially > installing Windows, albeit on a virtual disk instead of a physical one. So, > Voiceover cannot see anything Windows does because Windows is its own > operating system, and so you will not be able to get speech feedback (thanks, > Microsoft). > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > Wow that's really nice. Now with both of us being blind would we still > need sighted assistance during the install process or would voiceover work to > tell us what's going on during this installation? > > Take care, > Shannon Gerdts > > From: Alex Hall > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 4:07 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Installing windows 7 home premium into vm fision from an iso > > I did that recently, and it's really simple. You create a new VM, choose to > install from existing file or CD, then navigate to the iso when you are > prompted to open the location of the Windows install disk or file. Pressing > enter launches the process, and Windows installs. That's all there is to it! > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > On Feb 11, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Shannon Gerdts <bambam...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > Ok so I purchased a new macbook pro 13" for my wife's birthday. We're now > wanting to see about installing windows onto her macbook using fusion since > that will allow her to run windows and her mac OS side by side so that she > can switch between the two and run applications as needed. However, I'm > trying to do some searches for doing such a thing since the newest macbook > pros no longer come with an optical drive so I'm not sure how to go about > this task using an iso. > I did manage to get ahold of the windows 7 version I have in an iso form but > would love to get some feedback on how I go about using this iso and > installing it into fusion. > I want to thank all of you for any help on this matter ahead of time as it > will be tremendously appreciated from the both of us. > > Take care, > Shannon Gerdts > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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