It does not matter what you are comfortable with. Buttons on phones are disappearing. At this point, touch displays are less expensive then displays with physical buttons. So, buttons will be disappearing more rapidly now.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone > On 24 Jan 2014, at 6:54, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote: > > granted you can control many phones from a text message standpoint voice if > needful. I am not a texter in general sending, but some do choose to send > them to me. Still as expressed, it is logistics thing. I hate ear buds, > they never stay in my ear, I am not wearing your head lol. > Still if I can do what I wish faster just by pressing real buttons, then that > may be better for me. > Perhaps it too is a girl thing. > I am standing on the sidewalk in a dress and heels fiddling with m my phone > advertising to anyone...hey, look at that person who likely cannot see you > playing with that really expensive phone! wanna go bug her? smiles. > The nice thing is hat we both have choices and can individually meet those > choices and preferences as we desire. no us verses them thinking required. > To contribute some information of possible interest. > In Canada, > www.wirelessaccessability.ca > In the states, > www.mobileaccessability.org > I believe. > Both have detailed search engines where one can choose the specific features > that fit your individual lifestyle. > in my case there are 32 phones that I can try, I just wanted to ask about > the iphone because I am here. > > Kare > >> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Alex Hall wrote: >> >> Sorry, but I'm confused now. If you want to manage text messages and do >> other tasks on any phone, and you can't see the screen, you are going to use >> speech or braille no matter the platform. Given that, why not either use the >> earbuds your phone comes with, or invest in bluetooth headphones to have >> wireless, private speech? This would fix all your problems. Additionally, >> sighted people are no better off when dialing menu options. The iPhone must >> be in speaker mode (lowered from the ear) to accept input, so sighted or >> blind, everyone has to switch to speaker long enough to touch the button(s) >> they want. The only difference is that people will hear which buttons you >> press, unless you turn speech off and are good at finding the proper buttons >> by clicks alone. Also, the way the iPhones are designed, covering the >> speaker with your finger or thumb muffles it quite nicely. I now >> automatically do that when I lower the phone no matter what I'm doing, and >> it works well. Having phones talk and switch to speaker is more commonplace >> now, with the advent of the buttonless smartphone, and I really think it >> will be much less of an issue than you imagine. I was hung up on the same >> thing as you when I considered switching, but I don't even think about it >> anymore. I keep headphones with me (either earbuds or my bluetooth ones), >> and they work perfectly. They also offer other advantages, like issuing >> commands to Siri without needing to touch my phone at all, or >> answering/hanging up calls from the headphones alone. >>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>> makes perfect sense. >>> for me though, there are just too many times places, extensions and so >>> forth for this to be reasonable. >>> I run both a production company and a media nonprofit. There are places >>> people etc. I may only call once, that I may only visit once etc. >>> My desire is taking out my phone dialing a call responding to what is >>> needful and getting on with my day. and indeed because of traffic, other >>> people near me, and the like I want the exchange to be between me and my >>> phone not me my phone and a bunch of strangers. same goes for listening to >>> text messages and sending them. >>> There are phones that allow for this, lg just issued a new one late last >>> fall its a 447. >>> I am in a circumstance where I can have whatever phone I said i wanted, >>> including any iphone from my provider for free just now. I had voted down >>> an iphone before, but wanted to check if anything on this front was >>> better...unfortunately it is not. >>> Thanks for your wisdom, I appreciate learning what I cannot do as much as >>> what I can. >>> >>> Kare >>> >>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, and the commas you put before those extra numbers the longer the >>>> iPhone waits before putting in the number. This will not work well for you >>>> if those first extra numbers keep changing, unless you put in a separate >>>> contact named so that you can tell which one you have. For example, Dallas >>>> Area Rapid Transit has an option on their computer called Where's My Ride? >>>> I put in a separate contact and deliberately named it Where's My Ride? >>>> instead of calling it Dallas Area Rapid Transit. I hope this makes sense. >>>> I did this because the options for calling up that particular choice was >>>> different from the scheduling choice; sometimes I want scheduling and >>>> sometimes I want to check on the ride. Also, I had to do it over traffic >>>> and other noises, and their awful computer kept responding to any noise it >>>> heard. >>>> >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Daniel Hawkins >>>>> <computersassocia...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, you can, depends how fast you at flicking left or right, or finding >>>>> the dial numbers. Yes, it is slightly slower than what a sighted person >>>>> can do. >>>>> >>>>> If you are dialing a number and you know you will have to press 1 for >>>>> english, press 4 for your next option. You can save it to your contacts >>>>> with a comma or two for a few second delay and add the menu number. Say >>>>> for example put the number 8004561234,1,4 and that will choose the menu >>>>> options automatically for you, and you don’t have to do anything. >>>>> >>>>> This is how I save my bus scheduling number. I just put my bus number and >>>>> put a comma then what ever menu option that you know you wanted. And you >>>>> can do this with banks with your account number. >>>>> Daniel Hawkins >>>>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro >>>>> >>>>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro >>>>> 2.3 Quad-core i7 >>>>> 4GB DDR3 >>>>> 500GB HDD >>>>> >>>>> Dual Boot: >>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> I read often that it is difficult if not impossible to dial in a >>>>>> traditional way using an iphone. >>>>>> here is a simple example. >>>>>> Let's say you are traveling, you must dial a location, then a user >>>>>> number, then an a password. you then must make a series of choices >>>>>> from a menu. >>>>>> these choices change based on information presented. >>>>>> I realize many of you use your iphone for a number of different things. >>>>>> However, I am asking about this specific task. can it be done often >>>>>> with changing flexibility and effortlessly? >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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