then the answer for me, is no. which is why I asked. As expressed I read in many places that the simplicity of making effortless phone calls is not what one does with an iphone. I want feedback, but at my ear like other phones I use, have used. if the iphone does not provide this feedback to me and only to me, then I will just skip it.
Thanks for your perspective.
Kare

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Ray For et Jr wrote:

In that case, if you don’t want any feedback from your Iphone while entering 
numbers, how can you tell where you are?  You cannot hold the Iphone to your 
ear and dial digits.  It just aint gonna happen.  IF you want privicy, 
earphones is the only way to get it for sure.  IF you don’t want that, than I 
wonder whether the Iphone is the best choice for you.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:26 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Hi,
oh and I forgot an element, using no earphones whatsoever?
my phone is a phone, I hold it to my ear, I want the speech in my ear etc.
Thanks for your input,
it is not a matter of the computer voices not shutting up.  it is a matter of 
the iphone providing the equal of touch tone information that another system 
recognizes.
wanted to clarify since this is a 100% deal breaker for me.
I do not want to require an ear piece every time I make one of these calls when 
working between appointments.  equally I do not want my phone talking in a 
fashion where others can hear.
thanks for the wisdom.
Thoughts?
Karen

On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Eugenia Firth wrote:

Karen, based on what I understand you are saying, you should be able to do it. 
I used to have more problems with that, but that got corrected. Now they on 
screen keyboard comes up and you can hear VoiceOver while those awful computers 
are still talking and won't shut up. I have found it sometimes to be a little 
easier to use the earphones, but that's not essential. Like I said, this used 
to be a problem, and I think that's why you were told it couldn't be easily 
done.

Regards,
Gigi


On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Hi folks,
I read often that it is difficult if not impossible to dial in a traditional 
way using an iphone.
here is a simple example.
Let's say you are traveling, you must dial a location, then a user number, then 
an  a password.  you then must make a series of choices from a menu.
these choices change based on information  presented.
I realize many of you use your iphone for a number of different things.
However, I am asking about this specific task.  can it be done often with 
changing flexibility and effortlessly?
Thanks,
Karen

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