Thanks David Taylor,

     I am still considered fluctuating low vision.  So I have used the most 
accessible browser for ten years.  Was once Opera.  It gave up 
accessibility years ago, so I moved to Firefox for the NoSquint of 125%, 
and set pages to a readable font, as well as adblock.  

I'd need a microscope to use Safari.  Figuring  out  where they moved 
things I use is difficult.  Of course, with VoiceOver, it will do it for 
me.  Sortof.  I'll still have to write out step by step instructions to 
find what I need, since I will no longer be able to scroll until I find 
it.  When  opened Safari yesterday, it had me logged into Twitter already.  
I didn't have to type my password or anyhing.  I actually don't like that, 
if someone picked up my computer, they could into it.  Plus,. it's always 
been a security issue to not have cookies closed and deleted at the end of 
a browsing session.  I have no idea how to set Safari to do that.

Thanks for your suggestions,

April

On Saturday, January 11, 2014 9:11:32 AM UTC-5, David Taylor wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would suggest a different approach. You should read the Getting Started 
> Guide which is also in the help menu, and learn to use the commands help 
> which is in the same place, or vi-h-h, in other words, hold down the vo 
> keys and press h twice. This would explain much of this to you, and if you 
> understand the logic, you’ll understand the terms. VO works well with 
> Google Chrome, but not Firefox, you happened to pick an external browser 
> which is not accessible, rather than start with what is built in, which is 
> always the best way with Apple. You can do so much without getting any 
> external apps and Apple ones often work best for most things for most 
> people. Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> On 11 Jan 2014, at 11:34 am, April Brown <aprilbr...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Eileen,
>
> Thanks. I had run the tutorial three times. And nowhere did it mention 
> that I had to use a specific browser.  It's also not very intuitive. I'm 
> going to create my own step-by-step manual, Because there's no way I will 
> remember any of those key combinations. I simply don't have the memory. 
> It's going to be slow, and I'll work on it a little bit four or five days a 
> week.  I don't even know what half the terms mean.  And I can't find the 
> definition anywhere. Strange terms that aren't used in regular computer 
> work such as auto web spot, web rotor, web spot, sweet spot.  I have no 
> idea what these terms mean, or if I need to use them, or how, or why.  And 
> that is to design websites. I can only imagine how somebody who has barely 
> checked their e-mail and maybe Facebook would feel looking at this.  
>
> Have a great day,
>
> April
>
> On Friday, January 10, 2014 4:49:41 PM UTC-5, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>>
>> Hi April, 
>>
>> I thought I would mention this to you. I have only had my MacBook Air for 
>> a little over 4 months. when I first started, I accessed the Voiceover help 
>> menu by pressing CONTROL-OPTION-H. This is the command to open Voiceover 
>> help. If you arrow down to a submenu item called "Quick Start Tutorial," it 
>> will present you with an interactive tutorial. The other item in the 
>> Voiceover help menu that I have gone back to periodically is the "Getting 
>> Started Manual" for Voiceover. 
>>
>> there is also a Voiceover command help menu. This is accessed by pressing 
>> CONTROL-OPTION-H-H (tapping the H twice quickly) This will open a submenu 
>> of different categories such as general, keyboard, navigation, etc. When 
>> you enter on one of these submenu items, it will open and delineate the 
>> keystroke command and its description  of what the command does. At the 
>> beginning of all of this, I used this the most to commit the keystrokes to 
>> memory. Be kind to yourself. It will get better in time. I rarely turn my 
>> PC on these days. It's only for the programs that I can't run on the Mac 
>> that I reach for the PC. I know in time I will probably venture to place a 
>> virtual machine on my air, but that's for another time in place. HTH. 
>>
>> Cheers, 
>> Eileen   
>>
>>
>>
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